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Scottish Prem 18/19

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I can see the Celtic fans frustrations especially given the timing but I think they'll still comfortably win the league. Not sure what else Rodgers has left to prove. At best he can hope to get out of a CL group as progression in that comp, but they've won everything else so what is his challenge. I think Leicester offer that. They should be mid-table this season, and certainly avoid a relegation scrap but it's about getting them to chase top six, progress more in the domestic cups and rebuilding the team. It'll be hard and there seems to be some degree of expectation at board level that isn't consistent with the squad they have and he needs time which is a commodity in short supply it seems
 
Is this not also a stepping stone for Rodgers? 2 good seasons at Leicester and he may be knocking on the door of one of the top 6? I could see him at an Arsenal or Spurs for example. He was unlikely to get the leap straight from Celtic to one of those.
 
Is this not also a stepping stone for Rodgers? 2 good seasons at Leicester and he may be knocking on the door of one of the top 6? I could see him at an Arsenal or Spurs for example. He was unlikely to get the leap straight from Celtic to one of those.
I would have thought that managing Liverpool and Celtic was enough for any club to be interested in him.
 
I would have thought that managing Liverpool and Celtic was enough for any club to be interested in him.
I think he left under a cloud at Liverpool and winning, during his time, in a 1 club league in Scotland does not gain him any real kudos. Celtic has steadied his ship but he didn't manage to do anything in European competitions to make him stand out as exceptional. Not particularly his fault, I don't expect Celtic to really compete in the CL, but he didn't manage enough wins there to excite the big teams. Celtic has been his redemption but I'm afraid the days of managing Celtic leading to a very top level job are long gone. It has however led him to a very decent club in the PL, better than going in and fire fighting at a relegation threatened club.
 
To get a big club down south you have to have won something either down south or at one of the big 5 leagues, he has done neither and winning in Scotland means nothing to some down south no matter how good an achievement, as much of a success he has been in domestic football the results in Europe have been humiliating his signings have been quite poor and he won't change his philosophy, just another Wenger with less money,
Sad to see him go but we will get on with it, I just hope lennon doesn't get it in any capacity, Clarke for me
 
To get a big club down south you have to have won something either down south or at one of the big 5 leagues, he has done neither and winning in Scotland means nothing to some down south no matter how good an achievement, as much of a success he has been in domestic football the results in Europe have been humiliating his signings have been quite poor and he won't change his philosophy, just another Wenger with less money,
Sad to see him go but we will get on with it, I just hope lennon doesn't get it in any capacity, Clarke for me

Lennon's agent been at Lennoxtown today.
 
I think he left under a cloud at Liverpool and winning, during his time, in a 1 club league in Scotland does not gain him any real kudos. Celtic has steadied his ship but he didn't manage to do anything in European competitions to make him stand out as exceptional. Not particularly his fault, I don't expect Celtic to really compete in the CL, but he didn't manage enough wins there to excite the big teams. Celtic has been his redemption but I'm afraid the days of managing Celtic leading to a very top level job are long gone. It has however led him to a very decent club in the PL, better than going in and fire fighting at a relegation threatened club.
There 8points off the relegation zone with a featured team who thinks they belong in the top 6 were in reality they are a bottom to mid table pl/championship team
Lennon's agent been at Lennoxtown today.
Aye just read that, not to impressed with that, although he will get us over the line for the league
 
There 8points off the relegation zone with a featured team who thinks they belong in the top 6 were in reality they are a bottom to mid table pl/championship team

Aye just read that, not to impressed with that, although he will get us over the line for the league

Looks like Lennon is a done deal for interim manager if Rodgers to Leicester goes through.
 
There 8points off the relegation zone with a featured team who thinks they belong in the top 6 were in reality they are a bottom to mid table pl/championship team

Aye just read that, not to impressed with that, although he will get us over the line for the league

Is that Leicester you mean ? They are certainly not that bad - they are a top half of the mid table along with the likes of Watford etc - and certainly not a Championship team. They have some very talented players and should be alongside Wolves around 7th to 10th place and on a given season could break into the top 6!
 
On a one off season yes, but since they won the league they have been worse and worse there just not a big club even in England they are small, same as teams like Watford, a few seasons in the pl gives them unmanageable debts and costs to the point can't spend to compete and dwindle these teams also have no fan base no real income outside the TV cash, can't even fill there stadiums
 
I also think Leicester are better than you make out Kris.

Only my opinion as I don't watch them week in week out.
 
On a one off season yes, but since they won the league they have been worse and worse there just not a big club even in England they are small, same as teams like Watford, a few seasons in the pl gives them unmanageable debts and costs to the point can't spend to compete and dwindle these teams also have no fan base no real income outside the TV cash, can't even fill there stadiums

Leicester are 97%+ full for every home game averaging over 31,600.

The club has very little debt as the owners, an extremely wealthy Thai family, converted it to equity.

Financially they are very sound and probably in a different league to Celtic.
 
Leicester are 97%+ full for every home game averaging over 31,600.

The club has very little debt as the owners, an extremely wealthy Thai family, converted it to equity.

Financially they are very sound and probably in a different league to Celtic.


Celtic Park is 60,000+
Celtic are very wealthy without the worry of a sugar daddy pulling the plug.
If Celtic availed themselves of the TV rights in the EPL they would be extremely wealthy.
 
Celtic Park is 60,000+
Celtic are very wealthy without the worry of a sugar daddy pulling the plug.
If Celtic availed themselves of the TV rights in the EPL they would be extremely wealthy.

So Dermot Desmond has stopped providing financial support to Celtic.

That will be news to him.

Whether you and casuk like it or not as the situation is at present Leicester City are in a financially stronger position than Celtic.

Pointless saying where the latter would be with comparable TV revenue as that's just not going to happen.
 
Celtic Park is 60,000+
Celtic are very wealthy without the worry of a sugar daddy pulling the plug.
If Celtic availed themselves of the TV rights in the EPL they would be extremely wealthy.

But they don't and that is the crux of the matter. It is like me complaining that the Sheikh bought Man City and not Everton, if we had their money etc. It is just how it is. Rodgers will go to Leicester, get a much bigger salary, will have more money to spend on players, will work with a better quality of player and if he does well then he can move back to a top 6 PL team. He knows he wont make that leap directly from Celtic so he had to make this or a similar move. It is logical planning by him and no amount of dragging up history or showing attendence figures will change that. Blimey, it is better than the move Lennon made to Bolton after all of his trophies at Celtic.
 
But they don't and that is the crux of the matter. It is like me complaining that the Sheikh bought Man City and not Everton, if we had their money etc. It is just how it is. Rodgers will go to Leicester, get a much bigger salary, will have more money to spend on players, will work with a better quality of player and if he does well then he can move back to a top 6 PL team. He knows he wont make that leap directly from Celtic so he had to make this or a similar move. It is logical planning by him and no amount of dragging up history or showing attendence figures will change that. Blimey, it is better than the move Lennon made to Bolton after all of his trophies at Celtic.

Lennon didn't walk out on Celtic to go to Bolton. He left in May, at the end of the season. He was being linked with a number of established EPL clubs (iirc Everton was one), and he thought he would get a prime job at one of them. The offers didn't materialise, and he ended up taking the Bolton job in October. It was a crazy job to take as they were a basket case at the time, not a good decision by him.

btw Rodgers was on a lot more than Puel. He was getting 2.5m a year before bonuses, he averaged 77k a week last financial year. Puel apparently was on 40k. Am sure Rodgers will be getting an increase on his Celtic wages, but it won't be that much more in relative terms. He will have a much bigger budget for players, but he doesn't have a great record at Celtic or Liverpool with his signings.
 
Lennon didn't walk out on Celtic to go to Bolton. He left in May, at the end of the season. He was being linked with a number of established EPL clubs (iirc Everton was one), and he thought he would get a prime job at one of them. The offers didn't materialise, and he ended up taking the Bolton job in October. It was a crazy job to take as they were a basket case at the time, not a good decision by him.

btw Rodgers was on a lot more than Puel. He was getting 2.5m a year before bonuses, he averaged 77k a week last financial year. Puel apparently was on 40k. Am sure Rodgers will be getting an increase on his Celtic wages, but it won't be that much more in relative terms. He will have a much bigger budget for players, but he doesn't have a great record at Celtic or Liverpool with his signings.

Fair comment regarding Rodgers' record in the transfer market.

Will be interesting to see how he goes with a bigger budget available to him as, apparently, one of the reasons for his being unsettled at Celtic was not being able to compete with an English Championship club for John McGinn.
 
Lennon didn't walk out on Celtic to go to Bolton. He left in May, at the end of the season. He was being linked with a number of established EPL clubs (iirc Everton was one), and he thought he would get a prime job at one of them. The offers didn't materialise, and he ended up taking the Bolton job in October. It was a crazy job to take as they were a basket case at the time, not a good decision by him.

btw Rodgers was on a lot more than Puel. He was getting 2.5m a year before bonuses, he averaged 77k a week last financial year. Puel apparently was on 40k. Am sure Rodgers will be getting an increase on his Celtic wages, but it won't be that much more in relative terms. He will have a much bigger budget for players, but he doesn't have a great record at Celtic or Liverpool with his signings.
I'm sure Rodgers would rather have waited until the end of the season but the job may not have been available then so he had to go now. Leicester are a solid mid table club, not a club in crisis, that he will look to push push for the 6-8 spot and have them playing good football. That is pretty much all he needs to do to get his stock up for the next move. Do that for two years and then maybe one of the north London duo may be needing a manager at that stage.

I feel for Celtic in this but the lack of tv money and worldwide exposure is always going to leave them struggling.
 
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