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Scottish Prem 18/19

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You are right moods can change and there are others on here who live in and around Sunderland who will know the mood even better. I just think they are starting from such a low point that he has a little more time than would be usual. He is being helped by the troubles at Newcastle, never underestimate the importance of that to each side. The negativity there is cheering Sunderland fans up no end :) and giving him space.

My feeling is that he could survive not going up if they fail in the play offs but they will need to start the following season well.
 
Strange loan move with Greg Stewart.
Birmingham bring him back from Kilmarnock where he has hit fine goal scoring form and then loaned him straight back to Aberdeen.
Where previously he struggled to get a game.
Nae wonder Steve Clark is scratching his head.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Strange loan move with Greg Stewart.
Birmingham bring him back from Kilmarnock where he has hit fine goal scoring form and then loaned him straight back to Aberdeen.
Where previously he struggled to get a game.
Nae wonder Steve Clark is scratching his head.
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Kilmarnock were reputed to be only paying 20% of his wages, Birmingham paying the remainder and Kilmarnock were not prepared (or perhaps able) to increase that.

Aberdeen are supposedly making a far more significant contribution.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Rangers paying £65,000 A WEEK for a 36 year old who cannot get a game at Bournemouth.
I am sure it makes sense to somebody, after they lost £14.000.000 last year
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You got any links to the £65k per week claim? The Sunday Post were claiming £35k a week this past weekend but haven't seen any claims anywhere that Rangers are paying £65k a week for Defoe.
 
IanM said:
Word on the South Coast is that Bournemouth are covering part of his wages...

I'd love it if Rangers won the title.......just to break the cycle!

Old Firm stuff is funny... usually rational people get all angry!
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The number 10 is the magic number in West Central Scotland at the moment, not Defoe's wages. If Celtic win this year they get to 8 in a row. Not sure if Rodgers is gonna stick around long enough to get them to 10, assuming they can keep winning the title.

On the Rangers front, I'm not sure what will happen to them in Europe re. financial fair play rules as they are currently surviving on loans from their owners. I'm not an FFP expert by any means but I though the idea of FFP was to stop clubs spending money they don't have which is pretty much what Rangers are continuing to do under Dave King's stewardship.
 
ger147 said:
You got any links to the £65k per week claim? The Sunday Post were claiming £35k a week this past weekend but haven't seen any claims anywhere that Rangers are paying £65k a week for Defoe.
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ger147 said:
The number 10 is the magic number in West Central Scotland at the moment, not Defoe's wages. If Celtic win this year they get to 8 in a row. Not sure if Rodgers is gonna stick around long enough to get them to 10, assuming they can keep winning the title.

On the Rangers front, I'm not sure what will happen to them in Europe re. financial fair play rules as they are currently surviving on loans from their owners. I'm not an FFP expert by any means but I though the idea of FFP was to stop clubs spending money they don't have which is pretty much what Rangers are continuing to do under Dave King's stewardship.
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The 65k a week claim was based on the theory, that his weekly wage was £130k and Rangers were paying half of it. The "Four Lads Had a Dream Blog" has stated wages figures were wildly excessive and wide of the amrk. They are generally quite a good source. The loans are from the directors but are being converted in to shares, and some have already been converted.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Rangers paying £65,000 A WEEK for a 36 year old who cannot get a game at Bournemouth.
I am sure it makes sense to somebody, after they lost £14.000.000 last year
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So what if they are paying that wage ? What does it matter to you ? If the player helps them win the title then it’s money spent - got to be compensated for making the step backwards
 
They're paying him £35k a week according to the Sunday Post. I reckon he'll be a good signing for them, still more than good enough to put away a good few goals in the SPL.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So what if they are paying that wage ? What does it matter to you ? If the player helps them win the title then it’s money spent - got to be compensated for making the step backwards
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I don't think it matters to him. I think it's more a case of the level of debt that they are adding too.

It remains to see how many goals he'll score up here. There have been some spectacular failures up here who expected to come up and walk the SPL. Flo and Keane spring to mind.
 
Jacko_G said:
I don't think it matters to him. I think it's more a case of the level of debt that they are adding too.

It remains to see how many goals he'll score up here. There have been some spectacular failures up here who expected to come up and walk the SPL. Flo and Keane spring to mind.
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Was Flo a “spectacular failure” ? Goal record not too bad in the two seasons up there and Keane was only there 6 months until he retired or did you mean Robbie Keane who had a very good scoring record for his short stint
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Was Flo a “spectacular failure” ? Goal record not too bad in the two seasons up there and Keane was only there 6 months until he retired or did you mean Robbie Keane who had a very good scoring record for his short stint
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Flo was horrendous up here you have to balance out who Flo was playing with and the chances he was presented with at a time when Sevco were splashing cash and had an embarrassment of riches. I think even most of the Ibrox "loyal" will admit that he was dreadful. Roy Keane was brutal up here. Barton is another who has was found wanting.

Defoe is a decent player. Should on paper be a competent signing.
 
Jacko_G said:
Flo was horrendous up here you have to balance out who Flo was playing with and the chances he was presented with at a time when Sevco were splashing cash and had an embarrassment of riches. I think even most of the Ibrox "loyal" will admit that he was dreadful. Roy Keane was brutal up here. Barton is another who has was found wanting.

Defoe is a decent player. Should on paper be a competent signing.
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Flo was never a heavy goal scorer in the Prem but his goal game ratio was far better in Scotland than anywhere else - 11 in 19 and then 22 in 40 - not bad for a player not a big goalscorer but the price paid was way over the top - never a £12mil player when he signed

Keane spent most of his time injured bar about 10 games was it right at the end of his career , lost a lot of his pace and bite.

Barton only played about 4 games before leaving

Defoe will score for fun if the team can make chances for him - still plenty of life left in him
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So what if they are paying that wage ? What does it matter to you ? If the player helps them win the title then it’s money spent - got to be compensated for making the step backwards
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It matters to me because Rangers won many titles by paying for players that they could not afford.
They messed up Scottish football for 10 years.
Having gone bust you would think that they would learn , but no they seem to be walking down the same old road led by pied piper Dodgy Dave.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
It matters to me because Rangers won many titles by paying for players that they could not afford.
They messed up Scottish football for 10 years.
Having gone bust you would think that they would learn , but no they seem to be walking down the same old road led by pied piper Dodgy Dave.
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Zzz

It’s all about The Rangers
 
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