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Running before I can walk?

HawkeyeMS

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A long long time ago, 10 years to be precise when I was 28, I told a colleague at work that my aim was to get a low enough h'cap by the time I was 35 to enter what I think was then called the Surrey Mid-Am. At the time I didn't have an official h'cap and the entry limit was 9. When I did get to 9, I was 36, the competition I had looked at all those years before didn't exist and many of the other decent opens had h'cap limits of 5 some up to 8 but I was still not low enough and I really stopped looking at the decent ones knowing the chances of getting in anytime soon were slim.

However, with my recent upturn in form and downturn in h'cap and following Robobum's post about St George's Hill my mind is set again on getting into some of these more prestigious opens. At 1st I was unsure if I could play to 7 let alone get any lower but I have now been 5 rounds off my new h'cap and am convinced that Cat 1 isn't beyond me. I need to cut out the silly 3-putts and sharpen up my chipping and bunker play but in my 5 rounds off 7 I have had rounds of +5, +8, and two +9s and I know the 8s and 9s were 3 or 4 shots worse than they should have been. I would actually go as far as saying I'm more confident now that I can get to Cat 1 than I was that I could get to this years target of 7.9. Having the lower h'cap and being able to play to it has raised my self belief no-end.

I am going to enter the Pearson Trophy at Liphook as recommended by Robobum although not sure I'll get through the ballot off of 7 so need a few more cuts in the next month or so and was looking today at some other events that require Cat 1 status and setting myself goals for next year. I don't expect to compete at these events but tee-ing up alongside some really good playes would be an achievement in itself.

But am I running before I can walk and getting caught up in my current form?

I've always thought I could get to 7 or 8 without really believing it and now here I am 2 weeks off of 7 talking about Cat 1, it doesn't seem real.

Has anyone else found themselves in my position of dropping quickly after years of a fairly stable h'cap and can you share your experiences. What advice would the low guys like Robobum give to someone in my position?

I hope I haven't bored you all but I realise there are some good golfers here who could share some words of wisdom.
 
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Go for it, whats the worst that can happen? You have bad day and dont break 90? So what? (and yes im talking from experience!)

At the end of the day unless you get seriously good youre highly unlikely to be winning, so go out, enjoy yourself and see how well you do.

If you think the top am comps are too much too soon worth looking at the mid amateur tour or the single figure golfer events as a stepping stone

http://www.midamgolf.co.uk/events-2013

http://www.singlefiguregolfer.co.uk/Results-2013/sfg-2013-tour-schedule-a-results.html
 
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Go for it.

Every time over the last few years I dropped another shot I thought "eek, how am I going to play to that" but tell yourself your a good golfer and it instills confidence and you do play to it and even lower.
Playing in the Opens with better and players of similar ability will again help you and you'll see different ways of gettig round a course and posting a score.
 
Hawkeye,

Go for it. You only really regret the things you don't do!

On the negative side, I think you got slightly lucky to get the 2 shot cut (grab it though!) and my early coach told me the step from 8 to 6 was actually the hardest (I didn't quite get there) requiring another mindset/attitude change.

I'd suggest Mill Ride's Ascot Stakes - a 36-hole Scratch/Handicap Open on Fridy 19th July would be a good starting point.
 
Running before you can walk?

No way not at all, I call that having some goals to aim for and something to work towards.

Good on you Hawkeye, I'm in need of some goals like this to be honest as despite setting a handicap goal i've just wafted along this year without putting in the work I need to.
 
Thanks for the replies guys.

Fundy: I was looking at some of those today but even though some like liphook have a limit of 8 I suspect most of the 7 & 8s will get balloted out so need to get lower.

Foxholer: Thanks for your honesty :D The ESR is the thing that I was concerned about originally. I did get lucky with the way my differentials worked out but I feel like I have been playing off 7 for ages. I thought I would struggle mentally with the low h'cap but it has worked the complete opposite and my confidence has soared. First time out I was a bit nervous but I shot 5 over round a course I'd never played before and I just thought, I can do this. Interesting what you say about 8 to 6 being the hardest, I honestly think if I hadn't got the ESR, I'd spend the next couple of years quietly telling myself I'm not good enough to get to 6. Now I think hey I'm here and it doesn't matter how I got here, lets see how much further I can go.
 
I've always believed that if you can par half dozen holes you can par an awful lot more. And once you can have two birdies in a round you can have more. So if you can par 12 holes, and birdie a couple, why can't you play to Cat1...?

To get to 6.5 you sure know how to play, you've just got to believe you can play like that.
 
And to balance the 'negativity' of my previous post....

Remember that in getting to that level - even with the ESR - you have played to 5 or 6 twicel.
 
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do you remember all those threads about how much of this sport is about confidence/what's in your head?

I'm not sure what you should 'go for'; but you certainly shouldn't double guess your proven capabilities!
 
Go for it we all need goals and ambition to keep the desire and challenge fresh.
Maybe DC can give you the tips for the final push to cat 1 over a pint or 3! :)
 
Go for it fella

Believe in yourself and be confident you're good enough :thup:
 
I had a similar drop a couple of years ago. After hovering around 10/11 for a couple of years desperately wanting to get to single figures, I finally got to 9 and a few weeks later was off 7.

As you've said, the first thought is "how can I play to this?" but then you soon realise that you can and as you've found out, having a lower handicap actually convinces you that you can play a bit and gives you confidence.

The biggest thing imo to being competitive off the new hc and actually being able to go lower, is a change in how you think about your scores while you're on the course.
Off 10, my mindset was trying to hang on to my shots for as long as I could.
Now every hole is a chance to grab a shot back and if I'm +5 after 6 it doesn't matter.

None of that answers your question!

Go for it. I have no experience of scratch opens, but I've played a few matches in our scratch team and it's very liberating leaving your handicap in the car park.
Also, as with a lot of other sports, playing with better players helps you to improve your own game as well.
 
As you've said, the first thought is "how can I play to this?" but then you soon realise that you can and as you've found out, having a lower handicap actually convinces you that you can play a bit and gives you confidence.

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I agree with this completely. I am of the opinion that people should always start at 18 handicap and go up if required. if you tell someone they are a 28 handicap, they will believe it and they wont play as safe as they know, they have shots to throw away.

if you start on 18 then it will increase the confidence and as far as I am concerned, an extra shot a hole is enough for anyone.



I also cant for the life of me work out, why people off high handicaps torture themselves by counting up medal scores every time they tee it up. medals increase tension as every shot counts. high handicaps would be far better concentrating on scoring good stableford scores and as the handicap comes down stableford slowly morphs into medal to score well.

when I was a kid I played the odd game when the sun was out. I still have a few of those cards sitting about and I wrote down every stroke as I had never known any other way of scoring. first time I beat my dad, I finished 8,5,8 & 7 for a total of 107.

when I joined a work society I found out about stableford. I very quickly forgot about counting bad holes and concentrated on building good stableford scores. this meant I was able to put bad holes behind me quickly. I have no recollection of breaking 100,90 or 80. the medal scores take care of themselves in time.
 
I agree with this completely. I am of the opinion that people should always start at 18 handicap and go up if required. if you tell someone they are a 28 handicap, they will believe it and they wont play as safe as they know, they have shots to throw away.

if you start on 18 then it will increase the confidence and as far as I am concerned, an extra shot a hole is enough for anyone.



Never heard this idea before but it does make a lot of sense:thup:
 
Go for it Mike , you never know unless you go ...

ive seen my handicap go from a lowest of 6.6 this year to now 7.4 but ive gotten 6 of those .1's in away scratch cups .. even tho the handicap is going up i feel my game & my course management is getting better ..

I can hear faint sniggering from Liverbirdie & JT (h4h challange)
 
Go for it, whats the worst that can happen? You have bad day and dont break 90? So what? (and yes im talking from experience!)

At the end of the day unless you get seriously good youre highly unlikely to be winning, so go out, enjoy yourself and see how well you do.If you think the top am comps are too much too soon worth looking at the mid amateur tour or the single figure golfer events as a stepping stone

http://www.midamgolf.co.uk/events-2013

http://www.singlefiguregolfer.co.uk/Results-2013/sfg-2013-tour-schedule-a-results.html

I agree with this...

You are definitely good enough to be out there, it just depends what your expectations are. I would love to be at that level amongst such good golfers and set myself the target of top 10 as a victory.

Good luck though mate on new handicap aim and if you enter!
 
Mike

I don't want to pee on your bonfire but trust me, 5 is THE worst handicap in golf. It opens doors to so many good comps but nearly always you will get balloted out of the decent ones. Happened to me so often last year, it's really frustrating. I've been balloted out of Liphook, Hankley and Parkstone.

So pleased I've recently gone up to 6 :D
 
I know what you mean Hawkeye. Having dropped a couple of shots off the h/c, and having played with a few Cat 1 guys this year and seen their games close-up, I'm now more confident that I can get into single figures and stay there than I was at the start of the season (although saying that, the last 0.2 between 10 and 9 must be the biggest 0.2 in golf). Until I'd actually shot a round equivalent to a 5 h/c, there was always the slight doubt about whether I could really do it. Now I know I can. I just need to sort out my short game.

I'd say you're more than capable of playing in that company and I'd also say that doing so will only help you improve further. I can't see what you've got to lose, really.
 
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