Roy Hodgson - Was 4 Months Too Long at Liverpool

[HomerJSimpson]

It's now or never though surely. We've got rid of the old hands (Lampard, Gerrard etc) and there are a lot of young players who are knocking on the door and should be hungry to do it on a big stage. We were poor last night and Hodgson acknowledged that but we still won. What else can you do? If we do under perform next year, I agree that his time may have passed and we should look to move on from Hodgson but who, in all honesty would want what is after all a rather poisoned chalice these days and will they have time to make the role and the side their own in the midst of a WC qualifying campaign

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Brazil was a blip well that's one way of putting it

I don't take the view of we have quilified well and should get behind the manager and team, I think it's two years wasted with Hodgson in charge, you only have to look at last nights performance to see nothing of note has changed since Brazil,while it's good to see more young players coming into the side I fear it's going to be another disappointing euros.

I would have liked to see Hoddle given another chance directly after Brazil as I think he would have had a better chance of getting the young players playing with more freedom and he would have a much better grasp of modern day football.

It's not that you don't make sense, it's just I don't get this constant campaign against him. Unless he walks away he's the man who will lead us into the Euro's, so why not get behind him and the team, what's the worse that could happen, the worse that could happen is the anti-Hodgson group were right and he should be sacked, but what if, what if, surely it's a win win.
Nobody (apart from StuC) is saying he's the greatest manager but he is the manager, every non-englishman wants to see England fail, I just can't join them.

 

[evahakool]

It's now or never though surely. We've got rid of the old hands (Lampard, Gerrard etc) and there are a lot of young players who are knocking on the door and should be hungry to do it on a big stage. We were poor last night and Hodgson acknowledged that but we still won. What else can you do? If we do under perform next year, I agree that his time may have passed and we should look to move on from Hodgson but who, in all honesty would want what is after all a rather poisoned chalice these days and will they have time to make the role and the side their own in the midst of a WC qualifying campaign

I agree that the young players should be hungry to do well on the big stage, but it didn't show how desperate some of them were to get there last night, how can any England fan think that Hodgson can get the best out of these players with his track record in the big competitions?

Yes you are right we were poor last night giving a performance that that was dire and something Hodgson should have got better given the time he has been in charge.

 

[Hobbit]

It's not that you don't make sense, it's just I don't get this constant campaign against him. Unless he walks away he's the man who will lead us into the Euro's, so why not get behind him and the team, what's the worse that could happen, the worse that could happen is the anti-Hodgson group were right and he should be sacked, but what if, what if, surely it's a win win.
Nobody (apart from StuC) is saying he's the greatest manager but he is the manager, every non-englishman wants to see England fail, I just can't join them.

Well put Paul. England, with 3/4 of the premiership players coming from abroad, will struggle to produce a decent national side. We are an indifferent side and I can't see that changing. But I see no point in criticising till the results go against us. At present, irrespective of the quality of the football, we're winning. No doubt Hodgson won't be there forever, but when he's gone the football won't improve much if at all. You can't make gold from lead...

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I agree that the young players should be hungry to do well on the big stage, but it didn't show how desperate some of them were to get there last night, how can any England fan think that Hodgson can get the best out of these players with his track record in the big competitions?

Yes you are right we were poor last night giving a performance that that was dire and something Hodgson should have got better given the time he has been in charge.

Every side can put in poor performances. Just look at the Dutch in the qualifiers and they arguably have better players and a more hungry manager. We were poor but we won. Better that than playing rubbish and losing every time. The young players should be enthused but again you can't turn it on every time and I think we need to give Hodgson the benefit of the doubt until after the EC finals. If we're crap and the young players under perform then I agree we need to look at a new manager. Until then I think we need to judge him on results and post Brazil these are rather decent

 

[evahakool]

It's not that you don't make sense, it's just I don't get this constant campaign against him. Unless he walks away he's the man who will lead us into the Euro's, so why not get behind him and the team, what's the worse that could happen, the worse that could happen is the anti-Hodgson group were right and he should be sacked, but what if, what if, surely it's a win win.
Nobody (apart from StuC) is saying he's the greatest manager but he is the manager, every non-englishman wants to see England fail, I just can't join them.

I would be delighted if I'm wrong about Hodgson and we do well, I will still be watching and hoping we play with flair and get past the group stages.

But as I say I think the past two years have been wasted and I suppose for me the performance in Brazil has made it hard to give Mr Hodgson much support.

But good luck to him and the team:thup:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I would be delighted if I'm wrong about Hodgson and we do well, I will still be watching and hoping we play with flair and get past the group stages.

But as I say I think the past two years have been wasted and I suppose for me the performance in Brazil has made it hard to give Mr Hodgson much support.

But good luck to him and the team:thup:

What makes you say the last two years have been wasted. We qualified for a WC and I agree we were poor when we got there but aside from that what else makes you think it's a waste. Hodgson has rung the changes with the older players going and he's got a young, pacey side developing

 

[richart]

I can't even remember Roy being manager of Liverpool. Now Rodgers at Reading I can remember, as he nearly took us down out of the Championship.

 

[garyinderry]

Anyone else notice glen hoddle sounded like he was hugging his third bottle of wine the other night during commentary. He has either given up on England all together or he was trying to dull the pain of watching them play absolute rubbish.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Anyone else notice glen hoddle sounded like he was hugging his third bottle of wine the other night during commentary. He has either given up on England all together or he was trying to dull the pain of watching them play absolute rubbish.

He is just plain dull - makes Owen and Townsend bearable

 

[evahakool]

What makes you say the last two years have been wasted. We qualified for a WC and I agree we were poor when we got there but aside from that what else makes you think it's a waste. Hodgson has rung the changes with the older players going and he's got a young, pacey side developing

Whoever was the manger would have seen the older players would have to have been replaced with younger players.

The reasons I think post Brazil have been wasted are IMO we are no better now than when we quilified for the W/C, we quilified for the W/C in a group that was of a similar stranded to our recent group, we saw the performance against Switzerland is that something you can see that Hodgson has progressed and built a side capable of doing well in the Euros?

If someone with a better understanding of modern day football would have been in charge IMO we would have progressed more and hence my thinking about the time after Brazil have been wasted.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Whoever was the manger would have seen the older players would have to have been replaced with younger players.

The reasons I think post Brazil have been wasted are IMO we are no better now than when we quilified for the W/C, we quilified for the W/C in a group that was of a similar stranded to our recent group, we saw the performance against Switzerland is that something you can see that Hodgson has progressed and built a side capable of doing well in the Euros?

If someone with a better understanding of modern day football would have been in charge IMO we would have progressed more and hence my thinking about the time after Brazil have been wasted.

But if we are in an easy group how can you tell, surely as we've qualified with ease and no one could have improved that, the real test will come at the Euro's, I'd rather go to the finals cautious than with the hype we've experienced over the last 30 years.

 

[Three]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHdSaPt8RyA

Woy never saw times like this.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHdSaPt8RyA

Woy never saw times like this.

That's the year before they were founded wasn't it?

 

[Liverbirdie]

That's the year before they were founded wasn't it?

I think you'll still find we had 5-6 league titles by then, just hadnt won old little ears by then.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think you'll still find we had 5-6 league titles by then, just hadnt won old little ears by then.

Second Division titles don't count 😜😂😂

 

[Liverbirdie]

Second Division titles don't count 

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[Deleted member 16999]

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Are Stu in disguise? 😃

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I think it's just the mention of Roy, will be pretty embarrassing for Liverpool when he proves to be England's greatest manager since Sir Alf!

I think this is worthy of a bump :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 16999]

He was clearly too good for Liverpool given his outstanding England success!

Happy days eh Chris :rofl: