Roy Hodgson - Was 4 Months Too Long at Liverpool

[Pin-seeker]

I prefer to use the word that sounds like genuis

You would think though that we qualification sealed that you would like to put a marker down and show intent - having attacker mids sitting and just looking to be solid and not concede and look to sneak a goal ?! It's just poor tactics that will get the team qualified but in the big tournaments it doesn't get the team out of the group stage aka Brazil.

England Played 8, Won 8
Scored 26
Conceded 3

And yet you still feel the the need to criticise.
Maybe he wanted to keep the winning mentality.

i suspect you'd have preferred us to come out all guns & lose.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Think the press had little to do with issues in Brazil, as soon as the draw was made it was called the group of death, I don't mind losing if we try, it was the lack of effort that was frustrating.

The expectations of the the England side have been lowered massively compared to what was expected from previous managers. He's had a free ride off the press.

Judging Hodgson on his England career to date, his qualifying campaigns have been good but let's not forget the opponents couldn't have been easier. Every man and his dog would expect to qualify with that squad of players.

The two tournament campaigns though have been very poor.

 

[Hobbit]

The expectations of the the England side have been lowered massively compared to what was expected from previous managers. He's had a free ride off the press.

Judging Hodgson on his England career to date, his qualifying campaigns have been good but let's not forget the opponents couldn't have been easier. Every man and his dog would expect to qualify with that squad of players.

The two tournament campaigns though have been very poor.

How dare he qualify! Played 8, won 8 scored 23 - terrible!

If England hadn't qualified that would be better??

 

[Deleted member 1740]

How dare he qualify! Played 8, won 8 scored 23 - terrible!

If England hadn't qualified that would be better??

Come in bri you're better than this.

Nobody can say both tournament performances have been acceptable. Putting my dislike of him aside that's a fair criticism.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Come in bri you're better than this.

Nobody can say both tournament performances have been acceptable. Putting my dislike of him aside that's a fair criticism.

I'll accept Brazil mate, but we'd already qualified for the other one and he came in at short notice, and he can only beat the teams he is given and because we've failed for years and years the press have given him an easy ride or accepted that we just "aint all that" still not Roy's fault.

Maybe it was Roys fault we had a recession or he shot Kennedy

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I'll accept Brazil mate, but we'd already qualified for the other one and he came in at short notice, and he can only beat the teams he is given and because we've failed for years and years the press have given him an easy ride or accepted that we just "aint all that" still not Roy's fault.

Maybe it was Roys fault we had a recession or he shot Kennedy

I think you could be onto something here.....

 

[Hobbit]

Come in bri you're better than this.

Nobody can say both tournament performances have been acceptable. Putting my dislike of him aside that's a fair criticism.

The WC qualification achieved what it set out to achieve, i.e. qualification. Italy were going through turmoil pre-tournament, and we couldn't beat a rubbish Italy team - maybe a little unlucky but we were rubbish. Uruguay hit us beautifully on the break, and exposed our lack of pace in midfield - a tournament too many for Gerrard. Costa Rica game was a dead rubber and isn't relevant to in terms of what we should or shouldn't have done/do.

European qualification has been achieved with a relatively young squad - a plus. But we do look cumbersome. Sterling still runs up cul-de-sacs and loses the ball too easily - he's definitely not an OxChamberlin and at best is a squad player. Best bit of business L'pool have done for years getting rid of him. Yes he'll win the odd game but when a team moves forward, hoping for a pass from him they get exposed when he loses it so easily. He needs a good fullback behind him who stays behind him.

What will the current England team look like against top teams in the finals? They need a decent stopper in midfield, a la Scholes, or they'll get tortured. They need someone who can split a good team open with a telling pass - the Ox looks like he's coming on well. And they need a good striker - it may be a finals too soon for Kane, but he's definitely worth a punt. And it may be Rooney's last finals if he doesn't improve, or get some decent service - he looked almost nondescript last night.

As for the back four. Fullbacks I'm not worried about but they still haven't replaced Terry, and Cahill looks weak with the Jag next to him. Both are only average together.

Where will we finish in the Euro finals? Going out in the qtrs would be wonderful, but I feel getting past the group stages might be a stretch.

 

[Backache]

Thought Hodgson was probably the best manager Liverpool had since Paisley and the board were very unkind too him. Yook over a team devestated by sales who had crashed the year before under the Spanish Waiter and would probably have won the title within a couple of years if the board had not panicked. Shame for the fans.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Thought Hodgson was probably the best manager Liverpool had since Paisley and the board were very unkind too him. Yook over a team devestated by sales who had crashed the year before under the Spanish Waiter and would probably have won the title within a couple of years if the board had not panicked. Shame for the fans.

:rofl: :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Thought Hodgson was probably the best manager Liverpool had since Paisley and the board were very unkind too him. Yook over a team devestated by sales who had crashed the year before under the Spanish Waiter and would probably have won the title within a couple of years if the board had not panicked. Shame for the fans.

Can't argue with a single word of that:whoo::clap:

 

[Fish]

Thought Hodgson was probably the best manager Liverpool DESERVED since Paisley and the board were very unkind too him. Yook over a team devestated by sales who had crashed the year before under the Spanish Waiter and would probably have won the title within a couple of years if the board had not panicked. Shame for the fans.

Fixed that for you

 

[evahakool]

Whilst Hodgson has qualified out of this group with ease it should be noted it was a very easy group and Switzerland gave us plenty of problems last night, it was a awfull performance especially in the first half.

It looks good when you look at the final table for this group,but so did the last quilfiers before Brazil, the real test is when you come up against better teams and IMO Hodgson was out of his depth both tacticly and with team selections.

Hodgson has never won anything of real note in the top level in his long career and should of been sacked after the Brazil, if you look at last nights game against a well organised but average side where there were so many square and backward passing and a defence that looked vulnerable at times with no attacking flair it doesn't fill me with any confidence for the Euros.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Whilst Hodgson has qualified out of this group with ease it should be noted it was a very easy group and Switzerland gave us plenty of problems last night, it was a awfull performance especially in the first half.

It looks good when you look at the final table for this group,but so did the last quilfiers before Brazil, the real test is when you come up against better teams and IMO Hodgson was out of his depth both tacticly and with team selections.

Hodgson has never won anything of real note in the top level in his long career and should of been sacked after the Brazil, if you look at last nights game against a well organised but average side where there were so many square and backward passing and a defence that looked vulnerable at times with no attacking flair it doesn't fill me with any confidence for the Euros.

Hodgson wasn't happy with the performance, played badly and still won, Brazil was a blip, if we crash out at Euros he should be sacked, We can only beat the teams in our group and we'll see how he does against bigger teams.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Whilst Hodgson has qualified out of this group with ease it should be noted it was a very easy group and Switzerland gave us plenty of problems last night, it was a awfull performance especially in the first half.

It looks good when you look at the final table for this group,but so did the last quilfiers before Brazil, the real test is when you come up against better teams and IMO Hodgson was out of his depth both tacticly and with team selections.

Hodgson has never won anything of real note in the top level in his long career and should of been sacked after the Brazil, if you look at last nights game against a well organised but average side where there were so many square and backward passing and a defence that looked vulnerable at times with no attacking flair it doesn't fill me with any confidence for the Euros.

You can't say that, he's on the Fifa technical committee and he's won trophies in Denmark, league cup in Italy, took Switzerland to 3rd in world football :blah: :blah::blah:

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You can't say that, he's on the Fifa technical committee and he's won trophies in Denmark, league cup in Italy, took Switzerland to 3rd in world football, managed Liverpool (they've won it 5 times you know) :blah: :blah::blah:

Fixed it for you:rofl:

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Hodgson wasn't happy with the performance, played badly and still won, Brazil was a blip, if we crash out at Euros he should be sacked, We can only beat the teams in our group and we'll see how he does against bigger teams.

It was embarrassing that's for sure.

Don't forget, they couldn't have had a better preparation than they had, no mad expectations of winning it,extra time with his players, even the bookies were offering 25/1!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Whilst Hodgson has qualified out of this group with ease it should be noted it was a very easy group and Switzerland gave us plenty of problems last night, it was a awfull performance especially in the first half.

It looks good when you look at the final table for this group,but so did the last quilfiers before Brazil, the real test is when you come up against better teams and IMO Hodgson was out of his depth both tacticly and with team selections.

Hodgson has never won anything of real note in the top level in his long career and should of been sacked after the Brazil, if you look at last nights game against a well organised but average side where there were so many square and backward passing and a defence that looked vulnerable at times with no attacking flair it doesn't fill me with any confidence for the Euros.

Good summary :thup:

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It was embarrassing that's for sure.

Don't forget, they couldn't have had a better preparation than they had, no mad expectations of winning it,extra time with his players, even the bookies were offering 25/1!

Come on Stu, leave it, leave it, we know you can do it, repeat after me

I must ignore Roy Hodgson thread.
I must ignore Roy Hodgson thread.
I must ignore Roy Hodgson thread.

:whoo:

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Come on Stu, leave it, leave it, we know you can do it, repeat after me

I must ignore Roy Hodgson thread.
I must ignore Roy Hodgson thread.
I must ignore Roy Hodgson thread.

:whoo:

:rofl:

 

[evahakool]

Hodgson wasn't happy with the performance, played badly and still won, Brazil was a blip, if we crash out at Euros he should be sacked, We can only beat the teams in our group and we'll see how he does against bigger teams.

Brazil was a blip well that's one way of putting it

I don't take the view of we have quilified well and should get behind the manager and team, I think it's two years wasted with Hodgson in charge, you only have to look at last nights performance to see nothing of note has changed since Brazil,while it's good to see more young players coming into the side I fear it's going to be another disappointing euros.

I would have liked to see Hoddle given another chance directly after Brazil as I think he would have had a better chance of getting the young players playing with more freedom and he would have a much better grasp of modern day football.