Rooney, greatest ever England striker?

Probably not his smartest move as the captain, whether it's a night off or not, but not the crime of the century either and irresponsible reporting by the paper. The apology is another insincere platitude forced by the FA trying to wield non-existant power.
 
He was still on England duty wasn't he? Doesn't matter if the game was 2 days or 2 weeks away to me, he's a professional sportsman and should act so. Tbh it didn't surprise me one bit, he's always looked a bit chunky throughout his career, like he's never really taken fitness seriously.
 
Beezerk said:
He was still on England duty wasn't he? Doesn't matter if the game was 2 days or 2 weeks away to me, he's a professional sportsman and should act so. Tbh it didn't surprise me one bit, he's always looked a bit chunky throughout his career, like he's never really taken fitness seriously.
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All the squad were given permission to relax and have a drink, was he bladdered or tipsy or drunk, we'll never know, but to suddenly start judging a footballer for having a few pints is ridiculous imo.
I take it no other professional sportsmen or women relax after a win and all go home straight to bed after taking their vitamins and carrot juice.
 
pauldj42 said:
All the squad were given permission to relax and have a drink, was he bladdered or tipsy or drunk, we'll never know, but to suddenly start judging a footballer for having a few pints is ridiculous imo.
I take it no other professional sportsmen or women relax after a win and all go home straight to bed after taking their vitamins and carrot juice.
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But how many professional sportsmen or women earn the however many hundreds of thousands a week he earns? Ok so a footballers career isn't that long, it's still just as long as most other sports, and being who and what he is has responsibilities.
Whether they were given permission to relax or not is irrelevant, as a so called professional sportsman you would think he would have the nouse to avoid the controversy this kind of action and image portrays.
If he wants to join the liver bashing masses in middle age bent on creating pavement pizzas then fine, but do it after you have stopped playing or at least away from the public eye and the popular press they love to use.
 
Not Englands best striker
Greaves, Shearer, Charlton, Lineker all better.
Have felt Rooney's been off the pace a bit for a few years now, that yard he's lost has made him half the player he was. As an athlete age 30 he shouldn't be getting drunk at weddings, would Ronaldo do that - never. He is heavier than he should be too. At £300k a week he owes his employer and fans everything he has so should be in absolute prime physical condition which means watching his diet carefully, he's clearly not and his play reflects it.....imo.
 
maxfli65 said:
Not Englands best striker
Greaves, Shearer, Charlton, Lineker all better.
Have felt Rooney's been off the pace a bit for a few years now, that yard he's lost has made him half the player he was. As an athlete age 30 he shouldn't be getting drunk at weddings, would Ronaldo do that - never. He is heavier than he should be too. At £300k a week he owes his employer and fans everything he has so should be in absolute prime physical condition which means watching his diet carefully, he's clearly not and his play reflects it.....imo.
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Unfortunately he is above them all in terms of goals scored, so statistically he is Englands greatest ever Striker, whether people think he was a better player is a matter of opinion.
Jimmy Greaves wasn't exactly tee total during his playing days.
 
Tashyboy said:
So he has " unreservedly" apologised for having a late night, just having a couple of drinks and a game of scrabble. Really. Now lets get one thing straight. I could not give two hoots if he has had a drink or skin full at home with Coleen and had a night of rumpy pumpy. The point is, he did it for all the world to see. He is thick. English football is embarrassing at the Moment. We don't even have a bloody manager or have you forgot that. English football is on its Spoty botty, and the captain who is the most senior member of that squad, the one that younger players look up to, and that is the example he sets. My thoughts on him in this instance are because he has been a plank.
Yesterday when he donated his Scotland shirt to a child who is terminal is the Rooney we want to see. Not one bladdered.
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Imo where he is atm in his career he should have been at home,not because I'm saying he cant drink but to get back in the first team at Utd and playing for England and not being the fittest he should be looking after himself better.

I don't believe the younger players are actually looking up to him he does not set the best example.

Of course he could have been more embarrassing and done a hair advert for head and shoulders like your past keeper or an advert for skin care products like the Liverpool team now that's embarrassing[well paid yes]but embarrassing.
 
If he was on the top of his form and pace, I couldn't care less. He's not, and maybe he should be doing the right things to get himself back up there if he's got any professionalism about him.

As for was he the greatest ever? Think its been said before, his goal scoring record speaks for itself. For all those that think otherwise, forget the personality and who he's played for and then ask yourself that question. I don't like the guy but I think he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the Linikers of the world.
 
He is a bit of a Ricky Hatton. Doesn't really embrace the full professional aspect of modern sport but has enough natural talent and works hard enough when required to reach a certain, and pretty significant level. Not absolute top because either the talent is not quite there or because they wont put that extra in that makes the difference. As others have said, would you see Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta etc in that position? No is the answer.

Personally, at this stage in his career I don't think it makes a big difference other than he should know by now to not get caught in that position. Hugely naive more than anything else. He even posed for the picture for heavens sake. Savvy up man.

Kellfire - Cup of tea at the ready. It really is too easy to bait the poor lambs with that one. Who'll be first to bite?
 
No mention of the alleged other 10 players out till 4:30am.
Messi wouldn't be in this position, he's far too busy fiddling his taxes.
Klopp's response to this Rooney saga was very good.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
He is a bit of a Ricky Hatton. Doesn't really embrace the full professional aspect of modern sport but has enough natural talent and works hard enough when required to reach a certain, and pretty significant level. Not absolute top because either the talent is not quite there or because they wont put that extra in that makes the difference. As others have said, would you see Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta etc in that position? No is the answer.

Personally, at this stage in his career I don't think it makes a big difference other than he should know by now to not get caught in that position. Hugely naive more than anything else. He even posed for the picture for heavens sake. Savvy up man.

Kellfire - Cup of tea at the ready. It really is too easy to bait the poor lambs with that one. Who'll be first to bite?
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Totally agree LT with what you said, however re Messi, Ronaldo and iniesta. I don't think they would go out on a session. Is that to do with attitudes abroad or what. When I first started having a go at shrek, He unreservedly apologised. If he is one of an alleged ten players that stayed out (til 5.00am😳) why. Another thing I have found ironic is in the last couple of days Shrek has been pushing for Southgate to be the manager. He has an odd way of showing his support.
 
I think there is a different mentality in the British game, maybe a stubborn throwback to a previous era and I think that while there are exceptions who were consummate professionals, there is the still an underlying feeling that many of the top players don't take as full care of themselves as they could. It's something you don't tend to see so much from the Germans, Spanish etc
 
I'm totally professional and always take any meets and comps seriously by always having an early night and never stay out drinking or having a potentially dodgy ruby.......























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