Rooney, greatest ever England striker?

Like I put, Rooney would not be my choice as Englands greatest striker, is was more about the romantiscm of some of these previous greats and trying to compare, Greaves did nothing on the World stage but some on here threw that at Rooney, none of these players choose who they play against and now were getting, "they didn't play as many qualifiers in them days" so in reverse how many more goals could Rooney have scored if he'd played in as many friendlies.
 
I get the point the OP makes and it's a valid and well researched one. However I still find him obnoxious and wish Lineker had been given the chance to kick on and undoubtedly beaten the record. Nonetheless well done to him. Still a fine feat
 
Fish said:
1 dodgy penalty that nobody knows why it was given or the player booked and 1 own goal, really impressive this, not!!
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But they're unbeaten and Roy is a very nice man.
 
I like Rooney but he's not the greatest England striker for me. His performances in tournaments since '04 have been very poor, that said I can't think of a player over the last 10years or so to have had good tournaments so he's not alone there.

Shearer and Lineker for me.
 
Fish said:
Quite simply the words Rooney & greatest just don't sit right with me, his gross goals against the amount of games he's played is like saying that my nett scores make me a better golfer than a 6 handicapper playing to an average of 10, they simply don't equate with each other, I'd also take the person into account also, everyone else who's been mentioned are/were all round gentlemen IMO on and mainly off the park, Rooney is a petulant toe rag at times on and off the park :smirk:
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Fish my old mate, you've been here long enough to know that you can only use phrases like petulant toe rag or suggestions that he might not be an all-round gentleman against John Terry, everyone else gets a pass, particularly Ryan Giggs.
 
Stuart_C said:
I like Rooney but he's not the greatest England striker for me. His performances in tournaments since '04 have been very poor, that said I can't think of a player over the last 10years or so to have had good tournaments so he's not alone there.

Shearer and Lineker for me.
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Shearer and Lineker for me too, probably age related as well, too young to have seen Greaves or Charlton play.
 
Blue in Munich said:
Fish my old mate, you've been here long enough to know that you can only use phrases like petulant toe rag or suggestions that he might not be an all-round gentleman against John Terry, everyone else gets a pass, particularly Ryan Giggs.
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Rightly so as well....
 
Fish said:
and if you put him in a suit he'd still grunt...:smirk:
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Come on fishy, he deserves the chance, just look at the great job he done at Inter, Fulham, West Brom and Blackburn. And don't forget how badly he was treated by those nasty scousers :blah: :blah:
 
Shearer the best I've seen, not seen Charlton or Greaves play. Rooney not far away, but not the player he was when he burst onto the scene in 2004 for England. If he'd played with that freedom throughout his England career he could have been an ATG. Looked like he was going to score every time he picked up the ball at Euro 2004, not many England players have ever looked as good as Rooney at that tournament.
 
It's only San Marino but still unbeaten and qualified with three games to go and no England side has done that in any qualifying campaign so Hodgson must be getting a few things right. I just wish our big names would all show up in the finals and play as they can. Maybe then we'll get of a group again. We all know we'll never win anything but a QF would be nice for a change and surely we are capable of that
 
Dan2501 said:
Shearer the best I've seen, not seen Charlton or Greaves play. Rooney not far away, but not the player he was when he burst onto the scene in 2004 for England. If he'd played with that freedom throughout his England career he could have been an ATG. Looked like he was going to score every time he picked up the ball at Euro 2004, not many England players have ever looked as good as Rooney at that tournament.
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Shearer and Gascoigne were both really exiting to watch in 96
 
The fever pitch running up to the EC will be unbearable as Woy's Unbeaten Lions roar into the Champs !! Followed by the expected limp withdrawal as they bumble out at the group or first KO round stage
 
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