Reducing carbon emissions

[Deleted member 21784]

There's an overwhelming 'need for privacy' that'll be a huge 'block' to the sort of automated access to vehicle info you were suggesting!
And FWIW, it has very little to do with EU considerations - though 'foreign vehicles' would certainly need to be considered!

Type any number plate you see out your window into mot checker

Then click mot history

 

[clubchamp98]

You put your car in for a service/mot, the mechanic works out your bill, you pay and you drive away. If you don't pay, you don't drive away

That’s open for massive fiddling .
It does go on.

 

[Foxholer]

Type any number plate you see out your window into mot checker

Then click mot history

You don't seem to have any idea about the sort of 'privacy issues' (that could be) involved with the 'direct' access to a vehicles!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

You don't seem to have any idea about the sort of 'privacy issues' (that could be) involved with the 'direct' access to a vehicles!

My car already has it.. vauxhall have the data however what I've said since mot

Type your plate into checker

You get all milage history..

Change mot to yearly .. simple law change no privacy issues

There you have a milage tracker

 

[clubchamp98]

It will be a Hackers Paradise and not the golf one.

 

[Foxholer]

My car already has it.. vauxhall have the data however what I've said since mot

Type your plate into checker

You get all milage history..

Change mot to yearly .. simple law change no privacy issues

There you have a milage tracker

See post 464!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

See post 464!

That's when smarter people than you or I get involved

Anpr cameras are everywhere

 

[Deleted member 29109]

See post 464!

Care to enlighten us?

 

[Foxholer]

Care to enlighten us?

Read George Orwell's 1984!

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Read George Orwell's 1984!

Riiiiight, you’ve got nothing factual to add then?

 

[Jimaroid]

Taxation based on mileage won’t work because distance isn’t a fair or even correct way to tax energy consumption.

Stationary vehicles consume energy too.

We already pay VAT on energy consumption. It will scale accordingly.

 

[Foxholer]

Riiiiight, you’ve got nothing factual to add then?

Surely you can work out for yourself the sort of info that could be obtained!
Tracking, location history etc.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Surely you can work out for yourself the sort of info that could be obtained!
Tracking, location history etc.

Everything everyone with a smart phone already willingly hands over ??‍

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Taxation based on mileage won’t work because distance isn’t a fair or even correct way to tax energy consumption.

Stationary vehicles consume energy too.

We already pay VAT on energy consumption. It will scale accordingly.

It isn't really a tax on energy consumption more on distance traveled .. you used the roads more you pay more

 

[Foxholer]

Everything everyone with a smart phone already willingly hands over ??‍

But that is by the user's choice! Users can opt out/disguise/mislead if they wish. Positional location is 'vague' at best - being taken from 'nearest tower'.
And FWIW, this has nothing to do with 'Reducing Carbon Emissions', so kindly get back on-topic!

 

[Jimaroid]

It isn't really a tax on energy consumption more on distance traveled .. you used the roads more you pay more

Stop thinking about cars, distance is not a measure of energy. All carbon emissions are directly related to energy consumption. Taxation of the energy supply is consistent, fair and easily implemented.

A banded system would scale across every type of consumer even those who can feed in from solar, wind and suchlike.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Stop thinking about cars, distance is not a measure of energy. All carbon emissions are directly related to energy consumption. Taxation of the energy supply is consistent, fair and easily implemented.

A banded system would scale across every type of consumer even those who can feed in from solar, wind and suchlike.

But taxation on the roads is what the subject was on this where the gov is gonna want to make back what it's missing in fuel duty .. so it won't want people using solar and the roads for free etc

 

[Jimaroid]

fuel duty

Fuel duty is already an energy tax.

What don’t you understand? There is no conceptual difference between the taxation of liquid fuel and electric fuel.

 

[cliveb]

Taxation based on mileage won’t work because distance isn’t a fair or even correct way to tax energy consumption.

Stationary vehicles consume energy too.

We already pay VAT on energy consumption. It will scale accordingly.

I'm not sure if I understand your stance on this.
When (not if) the government loses the cash cow of duty on petroleum fuel used for road transport, it will need to find a replacement.
Are you suggesting that the replacement should be a tax on all electricity and gas that is used, even for heat and light in domestic homes? That seems to be what you're saying, although I could easily have misunderstood.
If it is what you're suggesting, then I think it's politically impossible, even if in principle it sort of makes sense.

 

[Beezerk]

I was looking at Monocrystalline. We have a large pitch roof and a flat garage roof to install on. It was a couple of years ago now but I gave up as I couldn't see how it was worth it and wasn't helped by the fact we don't got enough sunlight due to the position of the house on the side of a hill, trees etc.

Sorry, minor thread hijack.
If you had a south facing pitch roof on your house which gets sun for most of the day, would you consider solar panels as a must?