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And to add insult to injury, step forward Scotland manager Craig Levein

Ian Black has been picked in the latest Scotland squad????

Not good enough to be picked when playing for Caley Thistle in the SPL, not good enough to be picked while starring for Hearts in the SPL but is now good enough to be picked while playing for The Rangers in the 3rd division??

The SFA just cant help itself pandering to them can it?

Mr Levein, you are an arse!!
 
smange said:
And to add insult to injury, step forward Scotland manager Craig Levein

Ian Black has been picked in the latest Scotland squad????

Not good enough to be picked when playing for Caley Thistle in the SPL, not good enough to be picked while starring for Hearts in the SPL but is now good enough to be picked while playing for The Rangers in the 3rd division??

The SFA just cant help itself pandering to them can it?

Mr Levein, you are an arse!!
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Avril is an absolute dick of a manager.

He stated Wallace wouldn't be in because of where he was playing then picks Black.


"The best scenario is for players to be playing at the top level to play international football. It makes it so much easier to step from one to the other. It is very difficult for anyone playing in the Third Division in Scotland to be up to the speed of an international match. No way am I closing the door at all I just think it is more difficult for Lee to get in now than it was previously so while he's in the 3rd I will be leaving him out"

The man is a walking contradiction and while he is in charge I don't see me travelling to support my country.....an utter fud of a man and a man who has done nothing in his managerial career to warrant being in the position.

I am almost hoping we get humped by the Aussies so we can get shot of this prick,mind you knowing the SFA they would probably appoint Fat Sally.
 
Dodger said:
Avril is an absolute dick of a manager.

He stated Wallace wouldn't be in because of where he was playing then picks Black.


"The best scenario is for players to be playing at the top level to play international football. It makes it so much easier to step from one to the other. It is very difficult for anyone playing in the Third Division in Scotland to be up to the speed of an international match. No way am I closing the door at all I just think it is more difficult for Lee to get in now than it was previously so while he's in the 3rd I will be leaving him out"

The man is a walking contradiction and while he is in charge I don't see me travelling to support my country.....an utter fud of a man and a man who has done nothing in his managerial career to warrant being in the position.

I am almost hoping we get humped by the Aussies so we can get shot of this prick,mind you knowing the SFA they would probably appoint Fat Sally.
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Seen that quote earlier as well Dodger.

Never thought Levein should have got job in first place then we had the debacle of the Czech match where he played without a striker on the pitch and now he picks a player from the 3rd division after that statement. Add into the mix all the poor results under his stewardship and its hard to understand how he is not under pressure to resign.

Scottish Football is getting harder and harder to stay interested in while it stumbles from one farce to another..

Although I rather enjoyed the Pars humping Cowden yesterday:clap:
 
Hearts to receive payment in June 2013...not exactly paid!

I don't have a problem with Black being picked on his footballing skills based on last season. I do have a problem with a 3rd Div The Rangers player being picked. Always thought that Levien was doing a decent job, not so sure now.
At least he is his own man and not the normal SFA lickspittle.
 
Still surprised that they have been able to call themselves THE Rangers - because quite evidently they are no such thing. They might like to think they are - but they would wouldn't they.

Even if RFC (IA) was the first 'Rangers' football club in the world, and therefore might have had a reasonable claim to be THE Rangers - that club is now deceased - it is no more. The new club is a new club - the likes of Cove or Berwick Rangers or indeed Queens Park Rangers are all older than the new lot.

So somewhere out there, there is the oldest Rangers football club in the world - and they might be able to call themselves THE Rangers. But this club with home ground Ibrox (for the time being and until the liquidators tell Dumb&Dumber that the sale of it to Green is cancelled) most certainly aren't.

What a farce - what a shambles - what a disgrace.
 
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Chuck saying that all debts to Scottish clubs have been paid........

Arabs say he's a liar.....yet again the hun biased media fail to check the facts before printing their pish.

Next he'll be claiming all VAT & Tax & N.I. is getting paid on time.:whistle:

http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=4286&cd=2012#.UCtUQrkC2Hs.facebook
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Charles Green statement in full on Rangers' website states that ""Furthermore, the Club was given a written commitment from the SPL in May that it would settle an outstanding debt to Dundee Utd". http://www.rangers.co.uk/index.php/news/headlines/item/1731-scottish-football-debts-settled

Not sure why money would come from the SPL when it was a scottish cup game. I can only presume that the money would be paid from Rangers share of TV revenue.

Dundee Utd's statement is not exactly clear on who they were expecting the money to be paid from, only that they have not yet received it. Expect another stand off between Green and the SPL. Time to watch other websites of clubs that were due money to see if they release a statement that they have not yet been paid

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Hearts to receive payment in June 2013...not exactly paid!
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It seems the payment terms for the Black deal need to be spelt out again. £500K was due in June 2012. This SHOULD have been one of the debts paid by Charles Green that he eluded to in his statement. The final 300k is due in June 2013 and is therefore not a debt as of yet. Why should it be paid early?
 
btw - you won't be surprised to learn that I support one of those 'diddy' clubs that Green & Sally think comprise a bunch of bigots who are jealous of the old Rangers (jealous?- ROFLMAO) and that who's clubs supporters want to go bust. Nice.
 
As of now all footballing debts have been repaid to Scottish Clubs is what Chuck said.

Not true.

And it seems that from his latest archive rights rant he is pandering up to the stereotypical hun and those stereotypical huns are buying into it....................master stroke from Chuck,it's just a shame he's spouting pish.
 
Dodger said:
As of now all footballing debts have been repaid to Scottish Clubs is what Chuck said.

Not true.
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Don't disagree with you. If he believed the SPL were going to pay Dundee UTD he should have checked that they had already done so before shouting that the debts had all been paid, or at least quantified his statement saying the SPL were going to pay Dundee Utd.

Don't go in for the Rangers biased media nonsense you spout BUT with yesterday's "Green has Paid" and todays "Green has not paid" articles, they clearly need to do more leg work.

It took all of 50 seconds to check Greens statements and see the words about the SPL paying the debt. But as of yet nobody seems to be asking the questions that need asked.

EDIT Maybe the BBC are!!!

THey have just tweeted "SPL cash flow problem means clubs still await vital broadcasting/sponsorship payment that was due at start of month"

and

"The #SFL are also due to be paid by #SPL but have been told they'll have to wait"
 
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Don't disagree with you. If he believed the SPL were going to pay Dundee UTD he should have checked that they had already done so before shouting that the debts had all been paid, or at least quantified his statement saying the SPL were going to pay Dundee Utd.

Don't go in for the Rangers biased media nonsense you spout BUT with yesterday's "Green has Paid" and todays "Green has not paid" articles, they clearly need to do more leg work.

It took all of 50 seconds to check Greens statements and see the words about the SPL paying the debt. But as of yet nobody seems to be asking the questions that need asked
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And why is that I wonder?

And you DO NOT go in for the media bias that I talk of (not spout,spouting is often incorrect).......:smirk:
 
And while I am having my lunchtime whinge what about Avril's latest one??

Calls Black up,then tells the world he wouldn't have bar the fact we have injuries so was basically desperate......great for the lads confidence.

Then names his team as he does 24 hrs in advance like he is some sort of tactical genius and names Caldwell in midfield!!!??

Black would have played IMO if it had not been for the fact he has had serious abuse for his inclusion.

Avril is a buffoon of a man and I hope we get pumped 4-0 tonight and they get shot of him.....he's a total fud.
 
Calling up Black was strange after his comments about Wallace. We have plenty other midfielders he could have called up but we are short on natural left backs which makes Blacks inclusion and Wallace being left out even more bizarre.

It was said on here that he was pandering to RFC by calling Black up. Don’t really agree with that as what Rangers get out of it, only the possibility of injury to the player. Also it has been said he now gets a call up because he plays for one of the "old firm". Black would have been in the USA as a hearts player if he had not gone for a hernia op, Lebien said as much on TV at the Scottish Cup final.

I have no time for Levien either (something we can both agree on) he has had a pretty easy ride from the press compared to the abuse others have had. See he has now banned the Daily Record, that could result in more of the press turning against him and be the start of his downfall
 
Dodger said:
And why is that I wonder?

And you DO NOT go in for the media bias that I talk of (not spout,spouting is often incorrect).......:smirk:
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Before articles were printed yesterday praising Green , questions should have been asked of the clubs to check if they had received payment.

Before internet articles were made today knocking green for not paying, questions should have been asked of the SPL if they had agreed to make the payment as claimed by Green.

Either way questions should have been asked instead of just printing bits of press releases
 
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Looks like STV have done a bit of digging

"Rangers insist the Scottish Premier League are to blame over an outstanding amount due from the club to Dundee United.
The Ibrox side waived any claim to £2.55m in prize money from the league for the 2011/12 season, as part of the agreement which saw them granted the transfer of the club's Scottish FA membership.
Rangers also agreed to settle all football debts, this week making payments to Celtic and Hearts. Responsibility for a circa £66,000 debt to Dundee United, relating to gate receipts from a Scottish Cup tie last campaign, was taken on by the Scottish FA and SPL, Charles Green believes.
STV has learned that half of the approximate £66,000 share of gate receipts was paid by the Scottish Football Association last season after money due to Rangers was diverted to Tannadice.
Dundee United though, issued a statement on Wednesday morning saying that they were yet to receive an amount, believed to be in the region of £31,000, following Rangers chief executive Green's claim that all football debts had now been paid.
STV understands the SPL does not believe that there is a firm agreement to make the remaining payment. However, the amount remains unpaid and Rangers have reiterated that they have a written agreement with the SPL for the league to pay United from prize money from the 2011/12 season.
Should agreement not be reached over payment then the Scottish FA could be asked to act as arbitrators by Dundee United."
 
Why would the SPL pay for a SFA debt? This, to me, is just chuckie pandering to the more "militant" element of the rangers support.
 
The debt is still owed by Rangers until it is paid, its irrelevant who said they were going to pay it.

It's like my mate owing me money so he says he's going to pay my mortgage for me this month. If he doesn't, I can't say to the bank that my mate says he was going to pay it so you should chase him. They would tell me to feck off, the debt is mine.

Part of the newco agreement was the Green said he would honour all outstanding oldco debts and that hasn't happened.
 
Rumour has reached my ears that Chuck Green is planning to fudge the ticket prices if The Rangers draw a SPL club at home in any cups.
Effectively along the lines of; Home fans buy a match-day programme for £14 and pay £1 at the gate for entry. So the £14 goes directly to club coffers and the £1 gate receipt is split between the clubs 50-50.

Seems he is saying something along the lines of "you didn't want us, you ain't making any money from us"...
Does he have the cajones to carry this out?
 
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