Rangers

[Doon frae Troon]

Very true Chris but the Old Firm went out of their way to promote it for fiscal gain over the last 150 years.

 

[chris661]

Very true Chris but the Old Firm went out of their way to promote it for fiscal gain over the last 150 years.

I disagree. Yes Celtic has its element of idiots but they never had a policy of not letting protestants work there.

 

[bladeplayer]

The beast is dead though and why would that make any difference to the trophies that they have won in the past?

And if you think that this sectarianism and bigotry is contained to football, and one or two clubs in particular, well frankly you are way way wide of the mark

Thats what i was trying to say mate , the past histories are past , doesnt mater what happens the trophys , it wont change anything ..

Wouldnt for a second think it was contained to both clubs or only football for that matter , .. What i am saying is until there is a line drawn under the past , there can never be a proper future .. that goes for life in general ,

 

[chris661]

Thats what i was trying to say mate , the past histories are past , doesnt mater what happens the trophys , it wont change anything ..

Wouldnt for a second think it was contained to both clubs or only football for that matter , .. What i am saying is until there is a line drawn under the past , there can never be a proper future .. that goes for life in general ,

Will never happen the bigotry runs too deep.

 

[Bomber69]

Will never happen the bigotry runs too deep.

On both sides.

 

[bladeplayer]

Will never happen the bigotry runs too deep.

I agree i quiet possibly never will ,

If i asked you 5 years ago when will Martin Mcguinness or any ex IRA shake hands with the Queen ? what would the answer be ?

I know My ans woulda been " when hell freezes over"..

Change is always possible if its wanted enough ..

I have realy enjoyed most posts on this thread , good solid discussion , got bit heated at times , both sides defending their beliefs etc , but the opinions of the people on both sides that tried to be constructive were respected. even where there wasnt agreement , the stirrers were told to go take a hike ,
Now only if life were like that eh ?

Apologies if i have taken thread a bit sideways ..

 

[chris661]

On both sides.

Agreed and I never said any different

 

[smange]

All these Rangers people seem to be going a bit senile these days and forgetting what they have argued for in the past to now want something else

Walter Smith is hilarious

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footba...accept-newco-into-their-ranks-86908-23903342/

a snippet:

Former Rangers manager Walter Smith has publicly voiced his fears for a Scottish game that gives every indication of being in meltdown.
“Everyone is going to start to have a fear now about the very future of Scottish football,” he said at the weekend.
“If Rangers go to the Third Division – or even the First and are not competitive – it’s going to affect the whole of Scottish football in a drastic way.”

Yet back in October this was his thinking

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footba...irm-are-denied-move-elsewhere-86908-21751069/

snippet:

"Scottish football can survive without the Old Firm first teams. It will mean other clubs haveachance to be successful.
"When I say the Old Firm leaving to join an Atlantic League, I don't exclude other Scottish clubs from having that chance.
"The team that wins the SPL could step up and, possibly, represent Scotland in the Champions League. If Rangers and Celtic were playing in the Atlantic League and Aberdeen win the SPL, then I think there could be a play-off to get into the Atlantic League for the next season.
"Even under this scenario the Old Firm would still have a presence in Scotland .
"Probably their teams would have to start in the lower divisions and work their way up. I fear for Scottish football if we don't change."

What an eejit:rofl:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Blade, I stopped halfway through a Queen/McGuiness post thinking it would provoke the wrong responses.

Well said, I have always said that their will be peace in NI when the mothers start teaching the kids to stop hating.
Looks like this is happening. Great news and I hope the prosperity of the area now starts to improve.

 

[chris661]

Blade, I stopped halfway through a Queen/McGuiness post thinking it would provoke the wrong responses.

Well said, I have always said that their will be peace in NI when the mothers start teaching the kids to stop hating.
Looks like this is happening. Great news and I hope the prosperity of the area now starts to improve.

Well you wanna try living here* then, dont let the media fool you. The hatred is still alive and well.




*disclaimer I live in the republic but a mere stones throw from the border.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Whatever happens today I hope that newco will not be allowed to be called Rangers [or even The Rangers]

 

[HughJars]

Wouldnt for a second think it was contained to both clubs or only football for that matter,

While in Glasgow it's certainly not just contained within football, I can assure you that outside of the Weegie goldfish bowl, no-one, absolutely no-one gives a toss what either of these two clowns think, or what faux-religious background someone comes from.

My current boss is a Weegie, brought up to Aberdeen in primary school, and is a Hun. When moving here his father could not get through to his Weegiue mates that my boss would be going to the local school. "aye, but what school" they kept asking, unaware that such petty issues did not leak outside of Glasgow.

It really ios a non-issue elsewhere, much as both sides of the former Old Firm would like everyone to believe otherwise.

 

[smange]

I hope this is just scaremongering again from the Daily Rangers but if any truth in this story it really is the end of Scottish football as a spectator sport for many fans I would guess.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2012/0...ibrox-newco-in-the-top-flight-86908-23903744/

Any club voting "Yes" after coming out and stating they would vote "No" should prepare itself for very low home crowds next season.

 

[smange]

Great statement from Stranraer F.C on their website, summing up every decent football supporters feelings.

Full statement http://www.stranraerfc.org/

"We hold the stance that it is our place to act in the best long term interests of Stranraer FC and for Scottish Football as a whole and see no reason to breach the integrity of the SFL by filling a vacancy at any level other than at the lowest tier. The possibility of placing a NewCo at any other level breaches the sporting competition of our organisation and compromises the very structure of our game. There should not be a special case made for any club and we believe that the proper place for a phoenix club to restart life is at the lowest level. We believe it is right and proper than any club should have the right to apply for the resulting vacancy and we would then form a view on which club we would support for election to any vacancy based on the presentation case made by the applicants.

Irrespective of the size, stature, history and resources of the club filling the vacancy, the opportunity exists for that club to find their way back to their natural tier in the league structure in a fair and equitable manner while being encouraged to trade and exist successfully within the means at their disposal."

Well written and bang on the money:thup:

 

[chris661]

While in Glasgow it's certainly not just contained within football, I can assure you that outside of the Weegie goldfish bowl, no-one, absolutely no-one gives a toss what either of these two clowns think, or what faux-religious background someone comes from.

My current boss is a Weegie, brought up to Aberdeen in primary school, and is a Hun. When moving here his father could not get through to his Weegiue mates that my boss would be going to the local school. "aye, but what school" they kept asking, unaware that such petty issues did not leak outside of Glasgow.

It really ios a non-issue elsewhere, much as both sides of the former Old Firm would like everyone to believe otherwise.

I disagree entirely having experienced it on many occasions outside of Glasgow.

 

[chris661]

It really doesn't matter Stevie, there will be no club playing football in the coming season from the south side of Glasgow.

 

[USER1999]

My point about the trophies is, if rangers are allowed to keep them, and show them in their museum (I assume they have one), then how is it a new club? And not an obvious continuation of the old one. If it is truly to start anew, the trophies need returning, and ideally put in a sfl museum.

 

[Dodger]

My point about the trophies is, if rangers are allowed to keep them, and show them in their museum (I assume they have one), then how is it a new club? And not an obvious continuation of the old one. If it is truly to start anew, the trophies need returning, and ideally put in a sfl museum.

Why would they go to the SFL? Any trophies on show will not be the real ones so as such will be the property of the club but as you say they should not be displayed in Sevco's trophy cabinet as they do not have any wins to show off trophies for.

The trophies should be smelting down and the cash they get from Ramsdens should go into the Creditors pot!:rofl:

 

[thecraw]

It really doesn't matter Stevie, there will be no club playing football in the coming season from the south side of Glasgow.

What's happening to Queens Park?????

Have I missed something?


:ears:

 

[chris661]

What's happening to Queens Park?????

Have I missed something?


:ears:

I said football