Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
It's no my picture.....honest.The only things I read are Golf Monthly and Big Jugs Monthly.
I would have thought that big huns monthly and Celts in kilts would be more your bag.
Rangers
- Thread starter Doon frae Troon
- Start date
- Status
I would have thought that big huns monthly and Celts in kilts would be more your bag.
wrighty1874
Journeyman Pro
I've got a mate in Dunfermline, who goes to watch Liverpool every week with some lads from Falkirk and Edinburgh, because they're sick of scottish football. They've been season ticket holders since 2004.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
wrighty1874
Journeyman Pro
you're right there. I've been to a couple of games with him and both matches were not as Andy Gray and Richard Keys described them!!They have my sympathies.
They might have a case against the SFA who actually enter the qualifying clubs into European competition.
Breaking news this morning that is a real disaster for us Tims....Fat Ally is gone.
Disaster,the man who masqueraded as a Manager has jumped ship.
No doubt the press will right obituaries about how he did a fantastic job for the club and deflect the fact he was a total bombscare of a gaffer.
It's the best news the Huns have had in ages.
Disaster,the man who masqueraded as a Manager has jumped ship.
No doubt the press will right obituaries about how he did a fantastic job for the club and deflect the fact he was a total bombscare of a gaffer.
It's the best news the Huns have had in ages.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
All you can see is the green brigade?
Christ almighty, how many times does in need spelling out to the old firm, not everything, indeed most things are not either a Rangers view, or a Celtic view.
There are dozens of other clubs in this country, and the overwhelming majority of those fans are absolutely disgusted at the uncovering of prolonged cheating from Rangers, which has been compounded by the reaction of the club and fans who have offered not one ounce of apology or contrition, but instead have looked to blame eveyrone but themselves.
The most ironic thing of all though, is the pointing to all things Celtic for every decison that now goes (quite rightly) against Cheats oldco, because every institution in this country is apparently anti-Rangers, despite the clear uncovering of evidence during this appalling cheating scandal that everything has been done to favour Cheats Oldco. The fact that one beneficiary of an illegal EBT from Cheats Oldco is still on the SFA board, and refuses to stand down, and has not even been asked to stand down, says all you need to know about who has and continues to run Scottish football (but not for much longer thankfully)
chris661
Money List Winner
Where's the applause smilie?
Aztecs27
Money List Winner
smange
Journeyman Pro
I heard Graham Roberts on Talksport Radio earlier with Alan Brazil and the arrogance of these Rangers people is beyond belief, he says that the chairmen of the other SPL clubs with definitely vote to allow Newco to play in the SPL because they need them, Scottish football needs old firm derbies.
I hope these same chairmen have budgeted for the loss of a lot of their own supporters if they do vote for Newco as feelings are running strong within football supporters in Scotland and many have vowed never to return to the game.
Any TV money gained from voting Newco will no doubt be lost from supporters walking away and if this generation of fans walk away and stop taking their kids to games then it will have a massive knock on affect for generations to come.
A no to Newco vote could be the start of something good for Scottish football but a yes vote will be the final nail in the coffin I feel.
I hope these same chairmen have budgeted for the loss of a lot of their own supporters if they do vote for Newco as feelings are running strong within football supporters in Scotland and many have vowed never to return to the game.
Any TV money gained from voting Newco will no doubt be lost from supporters walking away and if this generation of fans walk away and stop taking their kids to games then it will have a massive knock on affect for generations to come.
A no to Newco vote could be the start of something good for Scottish football but a yes vote will be the final nail in the coffin I feel.
HughJars
Q-School Graduate
Reported in the P&J today that Aberdeen have listened to their fans, and WILL vote NO to newco. Hibs are nailed on as a no, Arkwright seems like he's now also been swayed to the no camp, and there's a huge surge up Inverness way against their pro-Hun chairman, so they may have to about face too.
You can't see Mad Vlad voting any other way than to kick out one of the 'mafia' as he called them. And the St mirren gadgie was absolutely raging when interviewed after Cheats Oldco won their appeal to the court of session.
I just can't see where Cheats Newco can possibly get 8 votes?
They're gone, but is there a real possiblity that they may cease to exist compeltely, never mnind as just a reincarnated 'newco'?
You can't see Mad Vlad voting any other way than to kick out one of the 'mafia' as he called them. And the St mirren gadgie was absolutely raging when interviewed after Cheats Oldco won their appeal to the court of session.
I just can't see where Cheats Newco can possibly get 8 votes?
They're gone, but is there a real possiblity that they may cease to exist compeltely, never mnind as just a reincarnated 'newco'?
smange
Journeyman Pro
Yep, read the Aberdeen statement but really all they say is that they will listen to their fans and consider the fans feelings when making a decision, still not coming out and saying NO, I think they and the others are waiting to see what deal can be brokered and to see if thers a few quid to be made before committing. Then we will see what their stance on the "integrity of sport and football" is.
Isnt it funny how the SPL voting rules of needing an 11 to 1 majority have all of a sudden change to 8 to 4 as well?
Even more cheating and bending over backwards from the powers that be.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
I think you should save your righteous indignation over this until we actually find out the verdict from the court case regarding EBTs. OK, it looks bad but don't jump the gun. But was it conscious and deliberate "cheating" or taking a reckless risk and following bad advice? It's not like they were they only team to try these.....
My personal opinion, and don't jump on me - I am genuinely embarrassed at what's happened (although not the first time I've been embarrassed supporting an old firm team) - is that had Rangers managed the CVA they should have been welcome back in the SPL and helped by the SFA and other SPL clubs to get back on their feet.
However, since it's a newco, I don't feel it's Rangers any more. The newco should go into division 3 and be helped and supported by the SFA and SFL. As you would hope for any other club, if you can set aside your bitterness for a few minutes.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
Have never understood the bizarre SPL voting rules - it has always seemed 11 - 1 for some things and varying splits for others. Think you should rein in your paranoia just a little bit.....
Hopefully one good thing to come from this might be getting a bit more democracy into the SPL.
chris661
Money List Winner
NOTHING to do with bitterness RFC* have spent upwards of £150m of money they never had over the last 20 years trying to stay as the "most successful club". How did that work out? I can remember when celtic were hours away from going bust there was no mention of Scotland needing a strong old firm then was there? I even remember sleekit sally saying meh whatever, yet now everybody is supposed to bend over and help them?
Scottish football doesn't need rangers or celtic it WILL continue albeit on a reduced scale but it will be honest. I know which I would rather have as a Scottish football fan.
I really hope they listen to the fans but I really doubt they will.
97% of Aberdeen fans voted no on an online vote recently....I think that says it all.
The only way a no will be had is if the rumours are correct about the other underhand stuff the establishment have been up to are indeed true....
Sadly though I am willing to bet that the wishes of the fans will be tossed aside and that will be the beginning of the end for football in our country I feel.
97% of Aberdeen fans voted no on an online vote recently....I think that says it all.
The only way a no will be had is if the rumours are correct about the other underhand stuff the establishment have been up to are indeed true....
Sadly though I am willing to bet that the wishes of the fans will be tossed aside and that will be the beginning of the end for football in our country I feel.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
Errm.... actually there was. I was one of those that said it - which I haven't felt able to say when it was my club in trouble for fear of abuse or ridicule. And plenty of media commentators were saying the same. Do you really believe all the scottish press love Rangers and hate Celtic? Come off it.
My memory isn't good enough to produce quotes or challenge any you claim to have and neither do I remember Celtic getting the kicking from all quarters that Rangers have had over the last few months.
The newco isn't Rangers, it might call itself Rangers but it's a new entity. They've had the ultimate punishment. Put them in Div 3 and then lay off them, give them a chance.... to continue to put the boot in is definitely bitterness.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
If Rangers had been paragons of virtue Aberdeen fans would still have voted the same way. I can only imagine the other 3% didn't understand the question......
A herse parked outside Paradise and pictured over the media as opposed to a floral wreath on a coffin while blaming the Taxman would suggest Chris may have a point.
I'm bitter about it alright and I am going to enjoy it make no mistake of that.:ears:
- Status
Similar threads
