Questions on relief

[sawtooth]

FC ball came to rest near a log that had been cut and left in the rough adjacent to the green.

We weren’t sure if he got relief , luckily we managed to move the log out of the way in the end. Begs the question, if it was immovable would he have got relief?

Similar question, fallen trees no longer rooted in ground that are too heavy to move. Relief or not? ?

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Normally you would not get relief from a single log that had been left unless it had been marked by the green staff for subsequent removal. You are entitled to move the log however, assuming you could do so without moving the ball.

If there were a pile of logs that had obviously been cut with a view to moving them away you would be entitled to relief.

Fallen trees (or branches) are the same - unless designated by the greenstaff of local rule you are not entitled to relief.

 

[sawtooth]

Normally you would not get relief from a single log that had been left unless it had been marked by the green staff for subsequent removal. You are entitled to move the log however, assuming you could do so without moving the ball.

If there were a pile of logs that had obviously been cut with a view to moving them away you would be entitled to relief.

Fallen trees (or branches) are the same - unless designated by the greenstaff of local rule you are not entitled to relief.

Thanks, good to be sure with these things.

 

[Colin L]

Normally you would not get relief from a single log that had been left unless it had been marked by the green staff for subsequent removal. You are entitled to move the log however, assuming you could do so without moving the ball.

If there were a pile of logs that had obviously been cut with a view to moving them away you would be entitled to relief.

Fallen trees (or branches) are the same - unless designated by the greenstaff of local rule you are not entitled to relief.

That maybe needs clarifying.
You may take relief from a single log, a pile of logs, fallen trees (if completely unrooted) or branches as they are all loose impediments and may be moved (with assistance from others if needed).
If a loose impediment is too heavy to move you don't get relief.
A pile of cut logs or fallen trees or branches (whether cut or not) is also ground under repair by definition provided it has been gathered together for removal. No requirement for designation or local rule.
If material is not intended for removal, then you would only get relief if it were designated as GUR.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

That maybe needs clarifying.
You may take relief from a single log, a pile of logs, fallen trees (if completely unrooted) or branches as they are all loose impediments and may be moved (with assistance from others if needed).
If a loose impediment is too heavy to move you don't get relief.
A pile of cut logs or fallen trees or branches (whether cut or not) is also ground under repair by definition provided it has been gathered together for removal. No requirement for designation or local rule.
If material is not intended for removal, then you would only get relief if it were designated as GUR.

My comment on a local rule really referred to a fallen tree prior to it being removed.