public sector pay protests

[Fyldewhite]

This whole debate is classic "divide and conquer" tactics by governments past and present. They like to talk of public sector "benefits" and push the idea that the poor downtrodden private sector are stoically taking the pain for the whole country. In reality, we are all in this together. The fat cats are continually getting richer at the expense of all of us. It is only because the public sector can better mobilise to stand up for themselves that raises the profile of low paid work across the board. Believe me, without these protests over the years we would all be worse off.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Would you pay your golf club head greenkeeper, professional or manager more than £28k ?

Salary is based on many factors but the key one is supply and demand. Your club will pay whatever salary is required to obtain the people they need. If they want to get a top greenkeeper then they will need to pay more than £28k, if they are happy with a new out of college greenkeeper they will pay less. The best in a profession, if demand is high and supply short, get paid more. If there is more supply of people for a job than jobs out there then salaries in that profession is generally low. Skills and scarcity of skills are key.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I for one thought midwifes where over paid until my wife gave birth. These people are worth their weight in gold and do an amazing job. Bankers say " you have to pay big to get the best" i personly think 35k for a midwife is a steal. Oh and 35k is a senior midwife. My bosses wife just qualified on 28k

Newly qualified midwives at our trust go on band 5 same as nurses (£21,478) and then go onto band 6 as a qualified midwife (approx.) £25,600 (can' remember the exact figure off top of my head) once they have completed key competencies. They then have annual increments dependant on meeting criteria such as being up to date on mandatory training. They wouldn't go to band 7 for a number of years until they have developed skills and experience

 

[SocketRocket]

This whole debate is classic "divide and conquer" tactics by governments past and present. They like to talk of public sector "benefits" and push the idea that the poor downtrodden private sector are stoically taking the pain for the whole country. In reality, we are all in this together. The fat cats are continually getting richer at the expense of all of us. It is only because the public sector can better mobilise to stand up for themselves that raises the profile of low paid work across the board. Believe me, without these protests over the years we would all be worse off.

Most people in this country are employed by small to medium companies. These tend to be employers who have taken big risks to start up a business and have put their selves and often their houses on the line to finance it. It can often be very worrying when you have a number of people who rely on you to put money in their bank accounts, especially when times are hard, its also tough telling people that you cant afford a pay rise this year unless you make some people redundant.

I do understand that there are organisations that are greedy and pay silly money to some and peanuts to others but bear in mind there are also a lot of others not in this category.

 

[Fish]

Do you think that 35k is over the top for the people who deliver our children? I'm not claiming that it's a poor wage, but are you saying that a skilled profession such as midwifery should pay less? It also appears that you're saying that because they're already on a decent wage, then they shouldn't really expect a pay rise.. Does that logic transfer to all other "highly paid" professions?

Apologies if I've misinterpreted the tone of your post..

This is considerably cheaper :smirk:

 

[Birchy]

This is considerably cheaper :smirk:

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[Lord Tyrion]

You are both bad people but it made me laugh. Should I throw a link to this thread on Netmums. I am sure they would see the funny side :rofl: