public sector pay protests

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Are public sector workers deserving of a better pay rise or are they better off than those in similar private sector jobs? Should the general public be supportive of their aims (in terms of pay) and join in with them?
Also, do Unions only exist as any kind of recognised force in the public sector?
 
Believe some within the public sector do deserve pay rises

But there is also a lot of people within the public sector ( civil servants especially ) who take home a lot of money

They should get the same pay rise as MPs get
 
It's just like any organisation, there is no such thing as a free dinner, some one has to pay for it. If people are happy to pay more Tax/Ni to fund increases then it's OK. IMO it's best to consider their pay in relation to national average wages.
 
Suck it up and deal with it, sorry if that gets up anyone's nose but that is my opinion. For my last 3 years in the RAF I never received a pay rise due to the defence budget cuts. Problem is we did not have the right to walk out in protest and call strikes, we just had to accept it and get on with our jobs.

If people are jobs that are funded by the tax payer then they have to understand that the only to give pay rises is to either rob from Paul to Pay Peter, or just hike up the taxes. People employed by private companies are not getting pay rises so why should they have to pay more tax to pay for someone else to get one.
 
They are massively over paid anyway. In an open market, they would be paid way less than they are currently on, and with hugely reduced pensions too. They live in a dream world.

Hello reality.
 
murphthemog said:
They are massively over paid anyway. In an open market, they would be paid way less than they are currently on, and with hugely reduced pensions too. They live in a dream world.

Hello reality.
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Just who exactly are "they". You do realize who has been marching today don't you (Marching, not Striking. In their own time as well).
 
MadAdey said:
Suck it up and deal with it, sorry if that gets up anyone's nose but that is my opinion. For my last 3 years in the RAF I never received a pay rise due to the defence budget cuts. Problem is we did not have the right to walk out in protest and call strikes, we just had to accept it and get on with our jobs.

If people are jobs that are funded by the tax payer then they have to understand that the only to give pay rises is to either rob from Paul to Pay Peter, or just hike up the taxes. People employed by private companies are not getting pay rises so why should they have to pay more tax to pay for someone else to get one.
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You could have signed off?
 
richy said:
Handed your notice in. Left.
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Yes we could have - but the majority liked their job and were proud of their job but it was a bit annoying for us watching Firemen and Civil servants go on strike constantly
 
There is a bit of naivity here. Whilst there are people fighting for better pay in the NHS, there are also large numbers that are in departments that are being cut. Down grading jobs and cutting numbers. They don't just make people redundant they get them to reapply for jobs and then make some redundant later. Unions are looking after the pay fight and not helping or giving advice to those losing jobs.

That means there is no sympathy from one group for the others cause.

It seems foolish to be chasing better pay without defending jobs.
 
Birchy said:
Theres barely anybody getting pay rises so why should these people be a special case?
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again. Who are "these" people? And is that a fact that the majority aren't getting pay rises? I would doubt it. The Nurses Union are marching today. My wife is there currently hob-nobbing with Russell Brand. They were recommended 1%. It was refused by Jeremy Hunt. The same Jeremy Hunt who is quite happily about to take 11%. Is 1% more or less than you got this year?
 
Depends which jobs are being cut.

Far too many "govt funded" organisations had ridiculous amounts of middle managers added during the new labour era, which ultimately add little or nothing to the overall, strip all of these back out and use the savings to fund those doing the work at the coalface imho

oh and dont get me started on "consultants"
 
bluewolf said:
again. Who are "these" people? And is that a fact that the majority aren't getting pay rises? I would doubt it. The Nurses Union are marching today. My wife is there currently hob-nobbing with Russell Brand. They were recommended 1%. It was refused by Jeremy Hunt. The same Jeremy Hunt who is quite happily about to take 11%. Is 1% more or less than you got this year?
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Most people arent getting pay rises, not a fact but ask around and most people will say no rise. Ive not got time to ask the whole population.

1% is More than i got. I got zero.

So im moving jobs.
 
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