public sector pay protests

[bluewolf]

I did. I dont believe moaning about what other people get paid is relevent though. They are doing a completely different job. All them percentages and stats are irrelevent.

If you want that money, go get it.

lol. Percentages and stats are irelelevant. Brilliant. My wife,like a lot of nurses, doesn't want to leave her job. She loves it. Even the bits that 50% of this forum couldn't do (she's a children's nurse). It was a "calling" for her. She isn't striking like some have said. Se just wants the pay award that was recommended by the independent assessor. In real terms it's still a pay cut by the way.

 

[Birchy]

lol. Percentages and stats are irelelevant. Brilliant. My wife,like a lot of nurses, doesn't want to leave her job. She loves it. Even the bits that 50% of this forum couldn't do (she's a children's nurse). It was a "calling" for her. She isn't striking like some have said. Se just wants the pay award that was recommended by the independent assessor. In real terms it's still a pay cut by the way.

The stats and percentages are a load of crap, comparing one job to another is wrong. How do they come up with these recommended pay awards as well? Its all flawed.

FWIW i agree they deserve more, nurses for example do a more important job than a lot of professions in my view.

I have no time for people going on strike though, i believe it is wrong.

 

[bluewolf]

The stats and percentages are a load of crap, comparing one job to another is wrong. How do they come up with these recommended pay awards as well? Its all flawed.

FWIW i agree they deserve more, nurses for example do a more important job than a lot of professions in my view.

I have no time for people going on strike though, i believe it is wrong.

Striking is most definitely not wrong. Striking for the wrong reason is wrong. The right to strike is very important in ensuring the correct healthy balance between employer and employee.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Public sector workers including police, firemen, nurses and ambulance staff are all underpaid for the work they do. Talk to some of our nursing staff and many are forced to do agency work to make ends meet. I also have civil servant friends, at a high level who seem to be doing rather nicely and sitting on a decent pension nest egg. There's no real middle ground. A lot of local government workers (another area that seems to get a lot of publicity) do work hard again under tighter and tighter budget constraints.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Public sector workers including police, firemen, nurses and ambulance staff are all underpaid for the work they do. Talk to some of our nursing staff and many are forced to do agency work to make ends meet. I also have civil servant friends, at a high level who seem to be doing rather nicely and sitting on a decent pension nest egg. There's no real middle ground. A lot of local government workers (another area that seems to get a lot of publicity) do work hard again under tighter and tighter budget constraints.

Sounds like the nursing staff are living behond the their means.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Sounds like the nursing staff are living behond the their means.

Not really. I have a lot of friends in places like Charing Cross and St Thomas' and living in London means a large proportion of salary goes on living costs. Not enough nursing accommodation to go round. The pay is on a scale and so no room to pay more or recognise excellent performance with a bonus or pay rise

 

[Liverbirdie]

I have no time for people going on strike though, i believe it is wrong.

No strikes ever???????

How do you think that 25 paid days holiday, sickness pay, maternity leave, 40 hour week, safety in the workplace, pensions, redundancy pay was gained? Did the Romans give us them?

Also, if we all just move jobs to chase pay, who will care for you when sick/injured, who'll teach your kids whilst the lower paid civil servants bail out. Immigrants, oh no can't have them over here taking our jobs............

 

[HomerJSimpson]

No strikes ever???????

How do you think that 25 paid days holiday, sickness pay, maternity leave, 40 hour week, safety in the workplace, pensions, redundancy pay was gained? Did the Romans give us them?

Also, if we all just move jobs to chase pay, who will care for you when sick/injured, who'll teach your kids whilst the lower paid civil servants bail out. Immigrants, oh no can't have them over here taking our jobs............

Yep. Fair comment.

 

[bluewolf]

No strikes ever???????

How do you think that 25 paid days holiday, sickness pay, maternity leave, 40 hour week, safety in the workplace, pensions, redundancy pay was gained? Did the Romans give us them?

Also, if we all just move jobs to chase pay, who will care for you when sick/injured, who'll teach your kids whilst the lower paid civil servants bail out. Immigrants, oh no can't have them over here taking our jobs............

Oh come on Pedro. You could have let me have some fun first!!

 

[SocketRocket]

Not really. I have a lot of friends in places like Charing Cross and St Thomas' and living in London means a large proportion of salary goes on living costs. Not enough nursing accommodation to go round. The pay is on a scale and so no room to pay more or recognise excellent performance with a bonus or pay rise

I think Nurses get a supplement for working in London and surely they get more money as they progress through the grades?

 

[Birchy]

No strikes ever???????

How do you think that 25 paid days holiday, sickness pay, maternity leave, 40 hour week, safety in the workplace, pensions, redundancy pay was gained? Did the Romans give us them?

Also, if we all just move jobs to chase pay, who will care for you when sick/injured, who'll teach your kids whilst the lower paid civil servants bail out. Immigrants, oh no can't have them over here taking our jobs............

I meant in this instance, sometimes striking is the only way but not on this ocassion imo.

Theres a strike every other week at the moment, if we all strike when the going gets tough nothing would get done.

If they want to get me more holidays and stuff like that then go for it :rofl:

 

[Liverbirdie]

Oh come on Pedro. You could have let me have some fun first!!

Forget where he he comes from the little tyke.

Kids these days, they didn't have to live through the Thatcher years......god, what have I started now......

 

[SocketRocket]

No strikes ever???????

How do you think that 25 paid days holiday, sickness pay, maternity leave, 40 hour week, safety in the workplace, pensions, redundancy pay was gained? Did the Romans give us them?

Also, if we all just move jobs to chase pay, who will care for you when sick/injured, who'll teach your kids whilst the lower paid civil servants bail out. Immigrants, oh no can't have them over here taking our jobs............

Yes! What did the Romans ever do for us?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think Nurses get a supplement for working in London and surely they get more money as they progress through the grades?

Yep, there is a cost of living allowance and of course like any job, you get more money as you get promoted. One of the issues we have though, not in London but not far away in Reading is we are getting loads of newly qualified nurses, with no cost of living, who are starting on a £21,478 salary that are struggling with accommodation costs. It's that that causes many to leave so soon and we do have retention issues around this. Of course as you progress, even with annual increments (around £700-800 per annum) thing do get easier. Lots of other grades (housekeeping or healthcare assistants, both starting at £14,294) also find it hard to make ends meet and again we have issues keeping them on that salary

 

[Liverbirdie]

Yes! What did the Romans ever do for us?

Exactly!!!!!!!

 

[FairwayDodger]

Well I'm in the private sector and got nothing this year. Again. That's crap but I don't think others should get shafted just because I did. Classic divide and conquer mentality.....

 

[bluewolf]

I meant in this instance, sometimes striking is the only way but not on this ocassion imo.

Theres a strike every other week at the moment, if we all strike when the going gets tough nothing would get done.

If they want to get me more holidays and stuff like that then go for it :rofl:

Once again. They're not striking. They're protesting. In their own time. At their own cost. Protesting. Not striking. Striking - No. Protesting - Yes.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I meant in this instance, sometimes striking is the only way but not on this ocassion imo.

Theres a strike every other week at the moment, if we all strike when the going gets tough nothing would get done.

If they want to get me more holidays and stuff like that then go for it :rofl:

Not what you said, mr. Cool.

If people hadn't manned the barricades, you wouldn't be sitting in your air-conditioned office, being cool,eating biscuits,getting fat,being cool.

#Fatcat

 

[Birchy]

Once again. They're not striking. They're protesting. In their own time. At their own cost. Protesting. Not striking. Striking - No. Protesting - Yes.

Good luck to them on that then :thup:

Were they to strike on this issue i think it would be wrong imo. That is what will happen next though, everybody knows that. Its only a matter of time.

 

[Birchy]

Not what you said, mr. Cool.

If people hadn't manned the barricades, you wouldn't be sitting in your air-conditioned office, being cool,eating biscuits,getting fat,being cool.

#Fatcat

Wow wow wow i didnt get any ****ing biscuits!













Thats it im going on strike