Pro Core

[HomerJSimpson]

I took my old Odyssey ProType Tour #9 to Woburn fearing my newly acquired Tank may be too heavy for the quick pace of the greens. I got on well with it and putted solidly but couldn't make a putt. The trouble with the milled face is that the sweetspot is quite small and off centre putts are punished.

I was in AG in Camberley today to get a Pro Core put in. I've been following this guy on Twitter for a while and wanted to give it a go http://procoregolf.com/

The idea is to dampen vibration and in essence make off centre putts more controllable. All I can say is the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I hit a load off the toe deliberately on our putting green at Royal Ascot from 25 feet and it still got to the hole whereas these would have been 3-4 feet short before. The same for balls hit off the heel

Definitely worth a look if you are in AG (yes I know!). They seem to be the only main stockists so far but I've a feeling this could really take off. I'm playing on Friday on greens that are slow (about 8 on the stimp) so will report back on how it holds up on the course

 

[anotherdouble]

Can you usually switch between 2 putters Homer. I have trouble with just 1.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Can you usually switch between 2 putters Homer. I have trouble with just 1.

Went to an Odyssey demo day and fell in love with the heavier Tank but was worried that Woburn's greens would be too slick. To be honest I've only had the new putter in the bag a couple of weeks and only played a handful of games with it so the switch back to the predecessor was fairly easy. The dilemma I have now is the Odyssey #9 is behaving again and may usurp the newcomer

 

[tsped83]

With the pro core installed to dampen vibrations, can you still feel a bad putt? Surely this must still be important? How much did it set you back Homer?

 

[Foxholer]

Ever thought that it might be better to hit it out of the sweet-spot in the first place?

Not entirely convinced about the test either. A touch of Heisenberg-itis - the fact that you are deliberately hitting it from the toe/heel means you unconsciously hit it harder. A true test would have been otherwise identical putters, apart from the ProCore, and comparing the performance.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

With the pro core installed to dampen vibrations, can you still feel a bad putt? Surely this must still be important? How much did it set you back Homer?

You still feel it but the ball manages to roll up further. Cost £49.99

Ever thought that it might be better to hit it out of the sweet-spot in the first place?

Do you hit every putt exactly out of the centre. Not sure even the pros do so you must be some putter

 

[Foxholer]

Do you hit every putt exactly out of the centre. Not sure even the pros do so you must be some putter

The mallet I have is pretty forgiving. Average this year is around 30 putts, so a relative strength - though that's more a function of poor-ish GIR.

shouldn't you be applying your own philosophy and getting a lesson rather than trying to buy a game?

 

[harpo_72]

You miss the centre of your putter blade? What are you doing, coming over the top on your putter swing? Are the greens that slow you have to give it a full swing ? Use a hybrid they are very forgiving and hot :thup:

as you can possibly tell I am really quite lost regarding this thread?

 

[chrisd]

On Wednesday the greens on the Dukes course were good but I wouldn't call them fast. They did roll well and were very smooth. The Duchess course was quite different and the greens were pretty slow. I wouldn't see a change of putter being necessary

 

[Liqdaddymac]

The theory is that a heavy putter is better for fast greens, lighter for slow greens.

Re the procore - a chap at our clubs swears by them and I have tested his putter in the manner you did with deliberate toe hits (felt like lee Westwood in that shocking advert!) and it did appear to do what it says.

 

[Crow]

So it's something that goes inside the shaft and effectively increases the sweet spot of your putter by dampening vibration?
How does that work then?

(Apologies for the question but the website explains nothing and none of the videos seem to work.)

 

[CMAC]

Isn't the 'vibe' the same?

 

[Slab]

You miss the centre of your putter blade? What are you doing, coming over the top on your putter swing? Are the greens that slow you have to give it a full swing ? Use a hybrid they are very forgiving and hot :thup:

as you can possibly tell I am really quite lost regarding this thread?

Snap!

I'm guessing that the 'toe & heel' in this scenario are each about 5mm from the sweet-spot!

 

[Ethan]

I recently bought another shaft for my 913, to play with over the winter, and it came with a Harrison Shotmaker insert in it. This is a device supposed to increase tip stability without increasing tip stiffness. Sounds a bit like the thing Homer has. I suspect it is largely a placebo effect but we'll see.

http://www.harrison.com/Techcorners/shotmaker-golf-shaft-insert

 

[mcbroon]

The theory is that a heavy putter is better for fast greens, lighter for slow greens.

I thought it was the opposite

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Snap!

I'm guessing that the 'toe & heel' in this scenario are each about 5mm from the sweet-spot!

I hit some putts from as far off the heel and toe as possible, certainly a lot more than 5mm from the centre and it still ran out. As always, there are those that will knock without even looking or trying but all I can say is that one session on the putting green seems to have positive results. Whether that is a placebo or not is debatable. However I would suggest that sweet spots on milled faced putters are notoriously small and so anything that benefits any off centre strikes must be helpful in gaugeing distance

 

[Twire]

Can't see how a milled face would make a sweet spot smaller, what about a ground face, or cast face? I'd be more inclined to think the overall design would have a bigger bearing on the sweet spot.

 

[ArnoldArmChewer]

On Wednesday the greens on the Dukes course were good but I wouldn't call them fast. They did roll well and were very smooth. The Duchess course was quite different and the greens were pretty slow. I wouldn't see a change of putter being necessary

Agree with this, I felt the dukes were even paced but not in any way quick, kept putting the ball 4 foot past the hole yesterday until I realised I was still in Friday mode.

 

[Robobum]

Can't see how a milled face would make a sweet spot smaller, what about a ground face, or cast face? I'd be more inclined to think the overall design would have a bigger bearing on the sweet spot.

Agree with this - but happy to be corrected if milling the face of a putter does indeed reduce its sweet spot.

Glad I've changed to an insert

 

[Slab]

I hit some putts from as far off the heel and toe as possible, certainly a lot more than 5mm from the centre and it still ran out. As always, there are those that will knock without even looking or trying but all I can say is that one session on the putting green seems to have positive results. Whether that is a placebo or not is debatable. However I would suggest that sweet spots on milled faced putters are notoriously small and so anything that benefits any off centre strikes must be helpful in gaugeing distance

Genuinely wasn't trying to knock it. I actually thought this must be a topic for low handicappers where those few tiny mm's make a difference hence I couldn't believe how the toe and heel referred to could have been what I understood a toe and heel to be.
I cant see how there's any market for a product installed inside your putter that helps your putt accuracy if you are a player who regularly hits up to 2 inches off the sweet-spot with a putter, which again suggested we must be talking about a couple of mm's here

Although if it really was that momentous I'm thinking the putter manufacturers will have thought about chucking it in as standard so a short term business at best.

It must be easier to just lay a couple of wooden blocks on the floor and putt through them to drill the stroke