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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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We definately had the rub of the green last night. One thing that no one has mentioned, but was discussed in earnest last week was DDG. He had a good game and made some great saves last night.

I listened to a Bruno Fernandez interview in the week. He was quite intense about the club and the ambitions. Saying that we should be trying to score 5 everygame we play etc etc. It was an impressive speech. He's a passionate guy and been a great catalyst for us.
 
It sounds like you've found my blinkers.
Whilst I didn't think that was a penalty, or the Zaha one, the offside decision was correct.
If, under the rules, a player is offside, then he's offside. It doesn't matter whether it's an inch or ten yards, he's still offside.

I agree. But this is what the masses wanted. You know the " offside is offside" gang.

Do you honestly think that Zaha one wasnt a pen?
 
We definately had the rub of the green last night. One thing that no one has mentioned, but was discussed in earnest last week was DDG. He had a good game and made some great saves last night.

I listened to a Bruno Fernandez interview in the week. He was quite intense about the club and the ambitions. Saying that we should be trying to score 5 everygame we play etc etc. It was an impressive speech. He's a passionate guy and been a great catalyst for us.

I didn't realise he was playing until he threw himself to the floor in the 2nd half ?

Regards DDG, you know it doesnt suit the narrative when a player whose been poor has a good game to praise him.?
 
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I think Saha is reaping what he has sown.
I do think it was a foul and anywhere else it’s given.
But he goes down with such theatrics , he’s got his arms out claiming a pen before he hits the floor.
This puts a dought in the refs mind and VAR are just useless.
If you don’t go down you get nothing.
If you go down easy your a diver.
The poor quality of reffing has partially caused this imo over the years.
Cheating is the main cause though .
 
I think Saha is reaping what he has sown.
I do think it was a foul and anywhere else it’s given.
But he goes down with such theatrics , he’s got his arms out claiming a pen before he hits the floor.
This puts a dought in the refs mind and VAR are just useless.
If you don’t go down you get nothing.
If you go down easy your a diver.
The poor quality of reffing has partially caused this imo over the years.
Cheating is the main cause though .
Surely VAR was supposed to resolve this though? I agree Zaha has brought the onfield decision on himself but when looked on the screen it is as clear as day that he is fouled and the decision should be reversed. I don't blame any onfield ref for having doubts, the cheating done by players is so widespread that it is a nightmare for them. The bloke in the studio though............

We have had a few this week and I find them bemusing. What are they actually watching?
 
A players "reputation" shouldnt be taken into consideration by the refs otherwise hes not being impartial.

With VAR in mind shouldnt all players be given a clean slate this season?
 
Surely VAR was supposed to resolve this though? I agree Zaha has brought the onfield decision on himself but when looked on the screen it is as clear as day that he is fouled and the decision should be reversed. I don't blame any onfield ref for having doubts, the cheating done by players is so widespread that it is a nightmare for them. The bloke in the studio though............

We have had a few this week and I find them bemusing. What are they actually watching?

Var was meant to be for clear and obvious errors

Did the official reviewing think it's not enough of a mistake to overturn?
 
He must have been watching a different match to the one he was supposed to be then. That or he was at a good part in a book and couldn't be bothered to look up.

Just watched it again

One angle looks a great tackle

The other looks like a clear pen

Ref looks blocked out tho which is why he didn't give . Maybe the error isn't obvious because the ref is blocked so his decision stands? Who knows

Var is awful .. well the officials are

Bring in pitch side monitorsb
 
A players "reputation" shouldnt be taken into consideration by the refs otherwise hes not being impartial.

With VAR in mind shouldnt all players be given a clean slate this season?
Perhaps reputation is the wrong word. Some players are more 'prone' to dive, leave a leg out etc. Refs do talk about this, they are aware of it, and that means they may well be less likely to give a decision for that player unless it is an absolute slam dunker. They don't want to be tricked and exposed across the media.

Even with VAR behind them, if a refs decision is over turned then that will be noted back at Ref HQ, this info is kept along with other stats. Too many overturned decisions and they will be demoted. I doubt they have given anyone a clean slate, just my opnion.
 
Just watched it again

One angle looks a great tackle

The other looks like a clear pen

Ref looks blocked out tho which is why he didn't give . Maybe the error isn't obvious because the ref is blocked so his decision stands? Who knows

Var is awful .. well the officials are

Bring in pitch side monitorsb
I can understand why the ref doesn't give it but that is why VAR is there. He whacks the back of Zaha's leg, clear as you like. He might get the ball but he takes his leg out to get to it. I think if the ref goes to see that pitchside he changes his mind.

Maybe the VAR is reluctant to change a decision of a colleague, trying to defend them?
 
Surely VAR was supposed to resolve this though? I agree Zaha has brought the onfield decision on himself but when looked on the screen it is as clear as day that he is fouled and the decision should be reversed. I don't blame any onfield ref for having doubts, the cheating done by players is so widespread that it is a nightmare for them. The bloke in the studio though............

We have had a few this week and I find them bemusing. What are they actually watching?
I totally agree what are they watching.
If the ref tells var that he didn’t have a clear view, they are not correcting him just helping.
I just think the refs are not good enough even with all the tech.
 
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