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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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emptied my accounts pretty much after cheltenham :( guess ill be looking at the UFC card for next saturday in the week :)

Haha no one likes a show off, I did have a go on the Belarussian premier league the other week ?
 
I'd love the season to be finished. There are a number of issues that need to be addressed. The clubs who are successful and win titles etc need to stress to fans not to congregate at the club or in the streets. I'm not just thinking about Liverpool but the winners of every league. Also, from a player perspective, safety needs to be paramount. Would you feel "safe" going to work and potentially being infected. Worst case, a player or coach may contract the virus and die.

My overall point is that its not easy. Personally, Test the players, scrap pre season and try and get it all done in 4 weeks in July.
 
I'd love the season to be finished. There are a number of issues that need to be addressed. The clubs who are successful and win titles etc need to stress to fans not to congregate at the club or in the streets. I'm not just thinking about Liverpool but the winners of every league. Also, from a player perspective, safety needs to be paramount. Would you feel "safe" going to work and potentially being infected. Worst case, a player or coach may contract the virus and die.

My overall point is that its not easy. Personally, Test the players, scrap pre season and try and get it all done in 4 weeks in July.
Sounds like a plan unless it deprives essential workers of tests.
 
I'd love the season to be finished. There are a number of issues that need to be addressed. The clubs who are successful and win titles etc need to stress to fans not to congregate at the club or in the streets. I'm not just thinking about Liverpool but the winners of every league. Also, from a player perspective, safety needs to be paramount. Would you feel "safe" going to work and potentially being infected. Worst case, a player or coach may contract the virus and die.

My overall point is that its not easy. Personally, Test the players, scrap pre season and try and get it all done in 4 weeks in July.

Again, not picking on Liverpool, merely using them as an example. How realistic is it that the fans will all sit at home on the day that they formally win the tile after what is it, about 30 years. Just not going to happen, going to be gatherings of fans all over the city and that is another reason not to proceed until the restrictions have been pretty heavily lifted.
 
Again, not picking on Liverpool, merely using them as an example. How realistic is it that the fans will all sit at home on the day that they formally win the tile after what is it, about 30 years. Just not going to happen, going to be gatherings of fans all over the city and that is another reason not to proceed until the restrictions have been pretty heavily lifted.
Judging by the gathering in my village for the fish and chip van on Wednesday , I'd hazard a guess that there would still be a few thousand muppets gathering somewhere to celebrate.

This is the bigger concern than clubs playing for me.
 
Judging by the gathering in my village for the fish and chip van on Wednesday , I'd hazard a guess that there would still be a few thousand muppets gathering somewhere to celebrate.

This is the bigger concern than clubs playing for me.

It is, there are so many risks associated with starting the season now but this is football and so it has to go ahead asap. Pubs, restaurants and no end of businesses that offer a far less significant risk have to stay closed and lose all income but this is football so just go ahead when you want. Who wins the league, who plays in Europe, who gets the cups is pretty much irrelevant in the wide scheme of things and, in all honesty, that has nothing to do with it anyway, it is all about the money. Who gets the millions of pounds of premiership money, who gets the lucrative champions league money, who loses out on the premiership money, those are the questions we are answering not some higher ideal of sporting integrity it is all about who gets the cash and whilst people are still dying in the hundreds every day, the conversation gets more and more sordid.
 
Again, not picking on Liverpool, merely using them as an example. How realistic is it that the fans will all sit at home on the day that they formally win the tile after what is it, about 30 years. Just not going to happen, going to be gatherings of fans all over the city and that is another reason not to proceed until the restrictions have been pretty heavily lifted.
There won’t be any issue with their fans in LPool, they’ll be at home as there’s no flights from Ireland or Norway at the moment.;)
 
Again, not picking on Liverpool, merely using them as an example. How realistic is it that the fans will all sit at home on the day that they formally win the tile after what is it, about 30 years. Just not going to happen, going to be gatherings of fans all over the city and that is another reason not to proceed until the restrictions have been pretty heavily lifted.

Unfortunately that will happen but I'm pretty sure the numbers will be massively lower than you think. The mood locally between fans is one of caution, I dont think many want to out themselves into a position. Like I said last night, a mile radius road closures, heavy police presence and stewarding will reduce those issues.

That said the trophy presentation is probably 2-3months away, hopefully we'll be in a better position and the lockdown/movement will have been eased.
 
The way to give us space/time to finish the current season is to restructure the 2020/21 season and make it shorter. Doesn't matter if it starts in November/December if this allows us to complete the current season without cramming a whole load of games into a short space of time, risking injury to players. Somethings got to give and it is far better that it is next season that hasn't even started rather then the current one where so much effort has gone into it.

Sure we might not know who the European entries are for UEFA's comps in time for UEFA's deadline and would have to nominate our entries....though why UEFA need to know who they are so early is beyond me. Maybe UEFA need to look at restructuring their competitions for one season....maybe reverting to the old European Cup straight knockout format.

What is clear is that we cannot complete the 2019/20 season to everyones satisfaction, and hold a full 2020/21 season and accommodate full UEFA European competitions and the European Championships in 2021. The FA, Football League, UEFA, TV companies etc need to be flexible in their approaches and try to come up with a structure and scenario where everyone sees some benefits...yes there will be reduced revenue across the board, but at least there would be some "product" to consume. There's too much protectionism going on.

For one season only what we need to do is something similar to what they did back in the 1940's when normal football was suspended and they ran the War Leagues. These leagues changed each year slightly in their structure but for the most part were regionalized. We could easily introduce a 9 league format, with 10 or 11 clubs in each league, regionally based (so 3 northern leagues, 3 midlands, 3 southern) and tiered with the best teams in League 1 etc etc. This reduces the season to an 18 or 20 game affair which could easily be accomplished in a restricted time frame.

We would then kick off the 2021/22 season back in a normal league format based on the relegations and promotions from the 2019/20 season.
 
It is, there are so many risks associated with starting the season now but this is football and so it has to go ahead asap. Pubs, restaurants and no end of businesses that offer a far less significant risk have to stay closed and lose all income but this is football so just go ahead when you want. Who wins the league, who plays in Europe, who gets the cups is pretty much irrelevant in the wide scheme of things and, in all honesty, that has nothing to do with it anyway, it is all about the money. Who gets the millions of pounds of premiership money, who gets the lucrative champions league money, who loses out on the premiership money, those are the questions we are answering not some higher ideal of sporting integrity it is all about who gets the cash and whilst people are still dying in the hundreds every day, the conversation gets more and more sordid.

But dont throw everyone in the same boat of wanting it done ASAP - Uefa might, the league may (or may not), individual clubs, fans players may be happy to wait but will have individual opinions.

I'm sure there are lots of people out there who want to send their kids back to school ASAP, get back to work ASAP, go the park, play golf ASAP and bugger the consequences, but if footballers want to in a more controlled environment - damn them to hell!!!

Turn it on its head - why should football feel its so special to wait until there is 0 % chance of infection - what makes them so special? :unsure:
 
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But dont throw everyone in the same boat of wanting it done ASAP - Uefa might, the legaue may (or may not), individual clubs, fans players may be happy to wait but will have individual opinions.

I'm sure there are lots of people out there who want to send their kids back to school ASAP, get back to work ASAP, go the park, play golf ASAP and bugger the consequences, but if footballers want to in a more controlled environment - damn them to hell!!!

Turn it on its head - why should football feel its so special to wait until there is 0 % chance of infection - what makes them so special? :unsure:

Apologies, my comments were aimed at the football authorities and clubs and not the fans. In reality the stance from the authorities should be 'lets see how this pans out and we can make decisions once it is safe to do so' but instead we have teams in training, UEFA deadlines etc. Not saying football should wait until there is zero chance but a football match requires people in close proximity and so should be waiting until there is a sufficient let up to allow that plus NHS capacity to allow ambulance cover etc. On a side note, I would rather wait until it can be played in front of a crowd but that is a whole other point.
 
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