Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[clubchamp98]

The point is you don't judge a challenge by what happens afterwards, absolutely any slide challenge could result in an injury like Gomes'. On this occasion he barely clipped him, but losing his balance caused him to bugger his ankle in the turf. The unfortunate result doesn't change what Son's action was, it was simply a late challenge and a trip, which is always a yellow card.

Not according to motd they had a quote from the refs organisation saying the injury will be taken into account.
Ref had a yellow out until it was obvious it was bad then he changed it to red.

Anyone know for deffo ?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Not according to motd they had a quote from the refs organisation saying the injury will be taken into account.
Ref had a yellow out until it was obvious it was bad then he changed it to red.

Anyone know for deffo ?

I saw that as an explanation given by the refs association as well. Is this a new thing?

The same explanation confirmed the reason for not giving a penalty. It was as per Orikoru stated, Mina and Alli jumped, the collision caused Alli to raise his arms. Cobblers but an explanation.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The point is you don't judge a challenge by what happens afterwards, absolutely any slide challenge could result in an injury like Gomes'. On this occasion he barely clipped him, but losing his balance caused him to bugger his ankle in the turf. The unfortunate result doesn't change what Son's action was, it was simply a late challenge and a trip, which is always a yellow card.

Going on this photo I’d suggest Aurier should of got the Red Card as it doesn’t look like Gomes accidentally caught his foot in the turf.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Oh by the way Gomes had a successful operation to repair his dislocated broken ankle and it’s hoped he’ll make a full recovery.

 

[Papas1982]

Only just seen the tackle(s).

Imo a yellow for both aurier and Son would have been right. Neither imo had malicious intent.

Son did a tactical foul, they happen everywhere. Every club accepts it when it helps the team.

Aurier is late, but again accidental.

 

[Hobbit]

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Going on this photo I’d suggest Aurier should of got the Red Card as it doesn’t look like Gomes accidentally caught his foot in the turf.

The problem with the photo is it has a poor depth of field. If you watch it on YouTube Gomes is still a foot or two short of Aurier at this point. And to be fair to Aurier, he obviously wouldn't have known Gomes would be going down. Son's tackle was the root cause, hence the red, but no one knew what the consequences of that tackle would be.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Oh by the way Gomes had a successful operation to repair his dislocated broken ankle and it’s hoped he’ll make a full recovery.

Hope he does, it was a shocking injury.

 

[Tashyboy]

Come on Tashy, youre not that old to be one of those who think footballs only existed for ten years, maybe as a City fan youve blanked out the pre Arab money years lol

Disgusting comments, we won the league cup in 76. 😖😁👍

 

[Orikoru]

Not according to motd they had a quote from the refs organisation saying the injury will be taken into account.
Ref had a yellow out until it was obvious it was bad then he changed it to red.

Anyone know for deffo ?

Yeah it was equally stupid when they said it on there as well. That's never been part of the laws, it's just classic defending of their refs with excuses as usual. Atkinson made a blunder but it's ref's union. Same as VAR never changing decisions.

As Hobbit said, Aurier didn't really do much, Gomes did his ankle in the turf and then collided with Aurier just through momentum really. He definitely wouldn't have deserved a card.

 

[clubchamp98]

The problem with the photo is it has a poor depth of field. If you watch it on YouTube Gomes is still a foot or two short of Aurier at this point. And to be fair to Aurier, he obviously wouldn't have known Gomes would be going down. Son's tackle was the root cause, hence the red, but no one knew what the consequences of that tackle would be.

All “professional fouls “ could end up like this .
I just don’t understand how a professional footballer can hack another player down usually from behind and people think it’s ok and just a yellow.
I think a tactical foul from behind with NO intention of playing the ball should be red .
It would stop it overnight!

I have seen players sent off when they have got the ball first.
But scythe someone down from behind , slap on the wrist and yellow.

 

[clubchamp98]

Yeah it was equally stupid when they said it on there as well. That's never been part of the laws, it's just classic defending of their refs with excuses as usual. Atkinson made a blunder but it's ref's union. Same as VAR never changing decisions.

As Hobbit said, Aurier didn't really do much, Gomes did his ankle in the turf and then collided with Aurier just through momentum really. He definitely wouldn't have deserved a card.

No blame on Aurier at all for me, Son caused this with his reckless tackle .
It changed the run of Gomez as he stumbled .
Aurier had set his stride for the challenge but the foul changed everything..

The refs should be ashamed of themselves trying to cover their arses.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

The point is you don't judge a challenge by what happens afterwards, absolutely any slide challenge could result in an injury like Gomes'. On this occasion he barely clipped him, but losing his balance caused him to bugger his ankle in the turf. The unfortunate result doesn't change what Son's action was, it was simply a late challenge and a trip, which is always a yellow card.

Why shouldn’t the consequences be taken into consideration? He wasn’t challenging for the ball, but deliberately trying to take the man down.
When actions are deliberate like that the consequence must be considered. If you Get caught speeding you get 3 points. If you hit and kill someone crossing a road because you were going too fast you get your speeding ticket but also death by dangerous driving possibly........the consequences of your actions.
Son may be the “nice guy” you claim, but the consequences of his actions must be taken into consideration.

 

[garyinderry]

Is there any reason why a referee cant pull a massive smart phone out of his pocket and instantly review a VAR decision rather than run the length of a pitch to view a 32 inch screen which they seem reluctant to do as it seemly takes too long to do?

The tech is here to run this show much better yet they seem to be making a complete pigs ear of it.

 

[Orikoru]

Why shouldn’t the consequences be taken into consideration? He wasn’t challenging for the ball, but deliberately trying to take the man down.
When actions are deliberate like that the consequence must be considered. If you Get caught speeding you get 3 points. If you hit and kill someone crossing a road because you were going too fast you get your speeding ticket but also death by dangerous driving possibly........the consequences of your actions.
Son may be the “nice guy” you claim, but the consequences of his actions must be taken into consideration.

Because it was a freak accident! You could shoulder barge someone off balance and they injure their ankle like that, that wouldn't suddenly make it a foul. The force of the tackle didn't cause the injury. Where do you draw the line anyway, if he made that challenge and Gomes only sprained his ankle, would that be a red? What about if he made that tackle and Gomes stubbed his toe? The action doesn't change based on the result, that's absurd. The action was a late tackle which tripped up the player - a yellow card.

 

[Orikoru]

Is there any reason why a referee cant pull a massive smart phone out of his pocket and instantly review a VAR decision rather than run the length of a pitch to view a 32 inch screen which they seem reluctant to do as it seemly takes too long to do?

The tech is here to run this show much better yet they seem to be making a complete pigs ear of it.

There's no way it would take any longer than hanging around 3 minutes for the decision to be made for him like they did in that game anyway. Should only take him 30 seconds to jog over there and another 30 seconds to watch it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Because it was a freak accident! You could shoulder barge someone off balance and they injure their ankle like that, that wouldn't suddenly make it a foul. The force of the tackle didn't cause the injury. Where do you draw the line anyway, if he made that challenge and Gomes only sprained his ankle, would that be a red? What about if he made that tackle and Gomes stubbed his toe? The action doesn't change based on the result, that's absurd. The action was a late tackle which tripped up the player - a yellow card.

You just can’t see it because of your a Spurs fan, if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball then fine, then it would be a freak accident!
Son made no attempt to play the ball, his only intent was stop Gomes, therefore, EVERYTHING that followed was initiated by Son.
I fully agree he may of not intended for Gomes to suffer as he did and might be upset, but he set the chain of events in motion.
The studs in the grass caused the dislocation and now there saying Aurier slamming in to him caused the break, all initiated by Son’s recklessness, if Son getting a Red card and the FA upholds it, it may send out a warning to other players that these type of dangerous, petulant fouls can have serious consequences, it may prevent another player from suffering.

 

[Papas1982]

You just can’t see it because of your a Spurs fan, if it was a genuine attempt to play the ball then fine, then it would be a freak accident!
Son made no attempt to play the ball, his only intent was stop Gomes, therefore, EVERYTHING that followed was initiated by Son.
I fully agree he may of not intended for Gomes to suffer as he did and might be upset, but he set the chain of events in motion.
The studs in the grass caused the dislocation and now there saying Aurier slamming in to him caused the break, all initiated by Son’s recklessness, if Son getting a Red card and the FA upholds it, it may send out a warning to other players that these type of dangerous, petulant fouls can have serious consequences, it may prevent another player from suffering.

It's the CL final, relegation battle, top 4 decider, your team is one up when a last minute counter occurs.

Your last defender cynically takes a player out on the half way line. Takes his yellow and your team gets the win. If anyone her says they're gonna criticise their defender for that. I'm calling bs.

No doubt Sons actions caused the injury, but its a pure freak incident. An accident by very definition. I think it's dangerous territory to be decided cards on outcome.....

 

[garyinderry]

Son is closing down at speed. Hes been done and lazily tackles with the wrong foot. Hes tripped the player and a yellow card all day long. What follows is a complete accident.

If you are to send players off then messi could get 3 men sent off with one drop of the shoulder as he skips a bucket load of these tackles every game.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It's the CL final, relegation battle, top 4 decider, your team is one up when a last minute counter occurs.

Your last defender cynically takes a player out on the half way line. Takes his yellow and your team gets the win. If anyone her says they're gonna criticise their defender for that. I'm calling bs.

No doubt Sons actions caused the injury, but its a pure freak incident. An accident by very definition. I think it's dangerous territory to be decided cards on outcome.....

Great scenario, totally irrelevant in the Gomes scenario, ie 2 struggling teams, side of the pitch etc etc.
I’m sure we can all play the what if game!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Son is closing down at speed. Hes been done and lazily tackles with the wrong foot. Hes tripped the player and a yellow card all day long. What follows is a complete accident.

If you are to send players off then messi could get 3 men sent off with one drop of the shoulder as he skips a bucket load of these tackles every game.

So again mate, excuses for Son, it was a deliberate tackle which only he could of avoided making.