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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Slime said:
Evra was superb last night and Carragher did himself no harm by showing some humility.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50133876
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I agree. I wonder though if it happened again (hope not) would other key players (and I am picking these purely at random like Kane, Sterling, Salah or Pogba) have the courage to stand up and say I'm not doing it or as Carrager says, go along with it as they are a "family" and so you support each other even when you know its wrong. The cynic in me says we've not really moved on that far and the answer would be no but the hopeful me says in the light of the current atmosphere and incidents, players would do the right thing. It would definitely be interesting to see how a side reacted now. I thought Carrager acted with humility with the way he spoke with Evra about it
 
4LEX said:
Arsenal are in mess that'll take years to fix. And money. Which the owners won't spend because Wenger let you become a business, not a football club.

Wenger destroyed his legacy, the squad and the wage structure. How can Emery build a side when he's got a passenger like Ozil on 350k a week? Anyone key signing would want parity. The club can't afford to offload and bring in the right players - you're skint compared to the elite clubs. This is your level. No top manager will touch you because you don't have the ambition or finances to compete.
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We have always had money, and Emery has spent a fortune already. 72m on Pepe isn't small change.
As for a top manager? I disagree. There is money, there is a salary of about 8m too. To work in London, with state of the art facilities, whether training ground, fitness, medical. There is a talented core of players to work with also. But most of all, following 10 years of mediocrity means its an easy one to succeed at for any manager with ambition.
That said, personally, I don't want an Ancelotti, or a Mourinho type name. I would like a newer, younger guy, with ideas, drive, charisma, and a plan. I have always fancied a Nagelsman type.

Managing players like Ozil is part of the job. All big clubs have players who are hard to manage. Pogba, Neymar, etc. Any manager with aspirations will have to deal with this type of player. Brushing him under the carpet is pathetic.
 
That to me is our preferred midfield 3. Going forward, loads of positive signs. I’m not sure we’ll see them in the league as a starting 3 for a while, defensive side needs work.

It’s also a refreshing change to have a midfielder who’s willing to shoot outside the area

No doubt the banner was in poor taste, but I just reckon it’s a few ignorant lads havin a laugh rather than anything malicious. The timing isn’t great tbf
 
Pin-seeker said:
Bit like the Bernardo Silva tweet.
It’s called racism these days.
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It's a bit of a grey area. They'll argue it was a 'compliment' but it's based on racial stereotype so best to avoid really.

I like Oxlade, it was a shame he got injured before the World Cup or he would have been a big part of our team. I think he's a really good player, and quite unique in that Liverpool side as a forward-thinking midfielder.
 
Orikoru said:
It's a bit of a grey area. They'll argue it was a 'compliment' but it's based on racial stereotype so best to avoid really.

I like Oxlade, it was a shame he got injured before the World Cup or he would have been a big part of our team. I think he's a really good player, and quite unique in that Liverpool side as a forward-thinking midfielder.
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I'd argue that's not entirely true. I'd say we have 3 forward thinking midfielders - Ox, Keita and Lallana. Just a shame they're all injured, all the time! All players being fit, the midfield trio we saw yesterday - Fabinho, Keita & Ox would be my first choice.
 
hairball_89 said:
I'd argue that's not entirely true. I'd say we have 3 forward thinking midfielders - Ox, Keita and Lallana. Just a shame they're all injured, all the time! All players being fit, the midfield trio we saw yesterday - Fabinho, Keita & Ox would be my first choice.
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I think Lallana is probably past his best now, and Keita seems pretty inconsistent to me. Oxlade is the best bit for attacking mid in my opinion. He can hold down a regular start in that role whereas the other two, not sure.
 
Orikoru said:
I think Lallana is probably past his best now, and Keita seems pretty inconsistent to me. Oxlade is the best bit for attacking mid in my opinion. He can hold down a regular start in that role whereas the other two, not sure.
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Keita reminds me of Fred. Does much of nothing.
I think Lallana will remain a squad/impact player.

Ox has a chance to break into that squad, but as much as its said their midfield can lack reactivity at times, it's also quite clear that atm when they break form the mould of a functional midfield they leave lots of gaps.
 
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