Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Kellfire]

Erling Haland (son of Alf-Inge) is going to be a star. Hat-trick last night in the CL, 12 goals in 9 this season for RB Salzburg, scored 9 in 1 game for Norway U20s, he's a proper goal scorer. Only a matter of time until a team from a big European league comes in for him. Was managed by OGS at Molde who rated him very highly and said they rejected a number of bids for him before he joined RB Salzburg. A big CL campaign for him will really drive up his price. Also, he becomes unreal in Football Manager, so basically a given that he's going to be a superstar

Heard rumours he'll be at Old Trafford by the end of January.

 

[pokerjoke]

Sat through the Liverpool game and it was uncharacteristic in how wasteful they were in possession and how few clear cut chances they really seemed to create. To be honest, taking VAR out of the equation I've seen those penalties given (especially to home sides) in the CL over the years and not sure VAR would have called it a clear and obvious mistake and reversed the decision. Mane needs to get out the habit of falling to the ground all the time (one of which was embarrassing and he'd have got roasted on here had it been another team). Didn't think Liverpool did enough to win the game and at 0-0 always susceptible. I think they'll win the rest of the games home and away to qualify

I watched the same game and they created plenty of chances,certainly enough to get something out the game.
Never a penalty

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I watched the same game and they created plenty of chances,certainly enough to get something out the game.
Never a penalty

As I said, seen them given in CL games, usually to the home side. VAR should have reversed the decision. Created 13 shots in the match but only 4 on target so wouldn't say they created plenty of did enough to test the keeper. A 0-0 draw would have been a fait result but after the penalty (VAR or not) always hard to get back into it so short of time

 

[Dando]

Heard rumours he'll be at Old Trafford by the end of January.

someone else they can ruin

 

[pokerjoke]

As I said, seen them given in CL games, usually to the home side. VAR should have reversed the decision. Created 13 shots in the match but only 4 on target so wouldn't say they created plenty of did enough to test the keeper. A 0-0 draw would have been a fait result but after the penalty (VAR or not) always hard to get back into it so short of time

Firmino missed a golden chance,won’t be counted as on target so stats can lie.

In the Chelsea game also never a pen but the new law says it is, he had no chance to move his arm.
Also disgraceful the way some players were with Barkley over the penalty.

 

[clubchamp98]

Firmino missed a golden chance,won’t be counted as on target so stats can lie.

In the Chelsea game also never a pen but the new law says it is, he had no chance to move his arm.
Also disgraceful the way some players were with Barkley over the penalty.

Years ago a Liverpool team that was 0-0 with 10 mins to go would just shut the game down.
We were in total control second half.
We did miss chances but it was the passing that was poor.

We gifted them two goals in a game that should have been a draw.
You just can’t do that at that level.

But the ref was poor.
In the Saltberg game the ref gave a red but VAR changed his mind.
Thought the ref should have at least gone and had a look at the monitor.
It was clear and obvious a dive.imo.

 

[clubchamp98]

Firmino missed a golden chance,won’t be counted as on target so stats can lie.

In the Chelsea game also never a pen but the new law says it is, he had no chance to move his arm.
Also disgraceful the way some players were with Barkley over the penalty.

Well in the Chelsea game the ref did look at the monitor and still got it wrong imo.
But at least he looked. Never a pen for me.

That’s a discipline thing why are three other players down his ear just before he takes it .
But have seen this lots lately, even Lampard said “ Ross is the penalty taker”
Think the other three might be in the office today!

 

[Tashyboy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49738617

Big up respect on how Liverpool have dealt with this.

 

[clubchamp98]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49738617

Big up respect on how Liverpool have dealt with this.

Nice one Tash.

I just wonder sometimes why people do this to total strangers just because they wear a different shirt/ team.
It just beggars belief.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49738617

Big up respect on how Liverpool have dealt with this.

It's a very human response, a classy touch. In a age of big money and detachment from supporters it is good to see a club looking out for their fans over and above.

As to why? We don't have enough 'shakes head' emojis. My cousin follows Liverpool across Europe but I don't think he does Italy any more. He has said in the past it is the most dangerous place to go to, Rome being the worst within Italy. It is sad, just so sad that people think this is acceptable to do.

 

[Tashyboy]

It's a very human response, a classy touch. In a age of big money and detachment from supporters it is good to see a club looking out for their fans over and above.

As to why? We don't have enough 'shakes head' emojis. My cousin follows Liverpool across Europe but I don't think he does Italy any more. He has said in the past it is the most dangerous place to go to, Rome being the worst within Italy. It is sad, just so sad that people think this is acceptable to do.

I don't just think it's the hooligan element that spoils Italian football. The recent events with racism/ Lukaku etc etc. There is something fundamentally wrong with Italian football at the moment

 

[Papas1982]

It's a very human response, a classy touch. In a age of big money and detachment from supporters it is good to see a club looking out for their fans over and above.

As to why? We don't have enough 'shakes head' emojis. My cousin follows Liverpool across Europe but I don't think he does Italy any more. He has said in the past it is the most dangerous place to go to, Rome being the worst within Italy. It is sad, just so sad that people think this is acceptable to do.

I only listened on radio as at work. They said only about a third of Liverpool fans actually went. The rest bought tickets to help their points for later stages.

I've two issues with this. One being that if fans are that worried to go to a game then the governing bodies need to do something.

Two, and whilst I'm sure it happens at all big clubs. Surely those fans that make the effort to attend should still have some sort of extra credit. After all the ticket cost is almost insignificant in comparison to other costs. And shows a more significant loyalty as such.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Years ago a Liverpool team that was 0-0 with 10 mins to go would just shut the game down.
We were in total control second half.
We did miss chances but it was the passing that was poor.

We gifted them two goals in a game that should have been a draw.
You just can’t do that at that level.

But the ref was poor.
In the Saltberg game the ref gave a red but VAR changed his mind.
Thought the ref should have at least gone and had a look at the monitor.
It was clear and obvious a dive.imo.

Are you talking European cup years or Champions league though- different dynamic in a mini-league compared to a 2 legged tie.

I agree that we shouldnt have lost that game but for 10 minutes before they scored their first, we were on top and they were all over the place, so could understand why we were pushing on, as 3 points there would have been a great start.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I only listened on radio as at work. They said only about a third of Liverpool fans actually went. The rest bought tickets to help their points for later stages.

I've two issues with this. One being that if fans are that worried to go to a game then the governing bodies need to do something.

Two, and whilst I'm sure it happens at all big clubs. Surely those fans that make the effort to attend should still have some sort of extra credit. After all the ticket cost is almost insignificant in comparison to other costs. And shows a more significant loyalty as such.

I think it shows a fault in the individual clubs system of ticket allocation. A number do it, it is not just Liverpool, but it forces fans to buy tickets whether they want them or not. I remember Utd were one of the first, forcing season ticket holders to buy tickets for league cup matches when for many they were impractical to attend. With the costs involved I don't blame any for not going. It must be financially crippling to follow a whole campaign home and away.

 

[Liverbirdie]

People are willing to buy a ticket but not go, as will get them an extra credit and may mean them getting a final ticket.

Not right, as sometimes there may be others who want to go, and will miss out, but slightly understandable. We had it with an eastern european away game a few years ago - sold 2,000 tickets, but only about 400 there, as others just paid the £6 for the ticket, so they got a credit.

 

[Papas1982]

I think it shows a fault in the individual clubs system of ticket allocation. A number do it, it is not just Liverpool, but it forces fans to buy tickets whether they want them or not. I remember Utd were one of the first, forcing season ticket holders to buy tickets for league cup matches when for many they were impractical to attend. With the costs involved I don't blame any for not going. It must be financially crippling to follow a whole campaign home and away.

Tbf I fully understand why they do it. Short of just doing a lottery they need a divider.

I just think the that actually go should get extra credit.

 

[clubchamp98]

Are you talking European cup years or Champions league though- different dynamic in a mini-league compared to a 2 legged tie.

I agree that we shouldnt have lost that game but for 10 minutes before they scored their first, we were on top and they were all over the place, so could understand why we were pushing on, as 3 points there would have been a great start.

Yes I deffo heard the commentator say Liverpool were the more likely to score just before Robbo dangled a leg.

They had more or less run out of ideas.
The ref gifted them the first and I just don’t understand VAR not at least asking him to look at the monitor.
From the other angle he was already going down.
The ref on BT sport confused me even more with his explanation!
Clear and obvious what does that mean ?
It left us chasing the game then for a game we should have won really.

But 0-0 away is a good result they should have just put two banks of four and settled for that.
Maybe 0-0 in a league is not brilliant but it’s better than 2-0.
We could have played all night and not scored it was one of those games but to lose??
For the European Champions I just think we were a little naive.

 

[Papas1982]

Yes I deffo heard the commentator say Liverpool were the more likely to score just before Robbo dangled a leg.

They had more or less run out of ideas.
The ref gifted them the first and I just don’t understand VAR not at least asking him to look at the monitor.
From the other angle he was already going down.
The ref on BT sport confused me even more with his explanation!
Clear and obvious what does that mean ?
It left us chasing the game then for a game we should have won really.

But 0-0 away is a good result they should have just put two banks of four and settled for that.
Maybe 0-0 in a league is not brilliant but it’s better than 2-0.
For the European Champions I just think we were a little naive.

Your CL campaign last year was hardly one based on fantastic defending. In the league you improved massively. But you conceded against almost every opponent you faced either home or away last year I believe. Spurs maybe the only team who failed to score against you.

You were unlucky yesterday, those results happen. Abandoning your attacking style because of one result is knee jerk, 9/10 you draw or win that game. Playing defensively you rarely win and encourage opponents to try for a win.

 

[Dan2501]

Nice work Liverpool fans. Abuse your own player so much for giving away a penalty that he feels he has to delete his own Twitter account. A player who has been consistently excellent and made 1 mistake. Social media can be the worst at times, especially Football Twitter, so toxic.

 

[clubchamp98]

Your CL campaign last year was hardly one based on fantastic defending. In the league you improved massively. But you conceded against almost every opponent you faced either home or away last year I believe. Spurs maybe the only team who failed to score against you.

You were unlucky yesterday, those results happen. Abandoning your attacking style because of one result is knee jerk, 9/10 you draw or win that game. Playing defensively you rarely win and encourage opponents to try for a win.

What I was trying to get across was we havnt learned anything from last year.
0-0 last night would have been a good result against the main rival.