clubchamp98
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Obviously .
clubchamp98
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Well thank god it’s not just me .
Rlburnside
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For all the refs talking to the keepers before the penalty shootout you can clearly see both Adrian's feet well off the line, so should it have been retaken?
But so hard for the officials to spot.
But so hard for the officials to spot.
Beezerk
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Think Chelsea can take far more from that performance than Liverpool but not a great game for the neutral. Typically short sided, cash driven decision to have it so far away in Turkey and at a daft local time and then to tag ET onto it as well. I thought the ref did reasonably well under close scrutiny and seems to be getting a lot of positive feedback https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49352647
Disagree with that. It's the only thing the assistant has to look for, there are cameras looking at this. It should be a simple one to police, unlike lots of other things which are tricky.
Did they use VAR last night? Does it work in shoot outs? If so there is no excuse.
Dan2501
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This is some pretty impressive analysis.
Rlburnside
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Your probebly right and should have been spotted by the assistant, VAR was used last night but don't think it could have been used for the shootout,if it was the penalty would have to be retaken, I watched it in slow motion and stopped it just before the ball was struck and Adrian's feet were clearly off the line.
VAR is used to clarify important decisions and you could argue it should be used for shootouts,but is that going to far.
Orikoru
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100% this. What a massive waste of time! Plodding all the way out to Turkey for the European charity shield?? If Spurs were in that final I'd be fuming that they've had to travel all that way and play 120 minutes mid-week right at the start of the season. How utterly pointless. Obviously once you're there you want to win it, but I'm sure both clubs would have been quite happy if it was just cancelled altogether. Any 'trophy' that is only one game is totally worthless in my view. To say 'oh you wish your club had got there' is inexact, of course I wish we had won the Champion's League last season, but not as a pre-cursor for qualifying for the 'super cup'.
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Var wasn’t great last night - how they didn’t give the penalty against Christiansen I’ll never know especially with the new rules and it was clear and the penalty they got was never a penalty and there was one replay that clearly showed the lack of touch
100% this. What a massive waste of time! Plodding all the way out to Turkey for the European charity shield?? If Spurs were in that final I'd be fuming that they've had to travel all that way and play 120 minutes mid-week right at the start of the season. How utterly pointless. Obviously once you're there you want to win it, but I'm sure both clubs would have been quite happy if it was just cancelled altogether. Any 'trophy' that is only one game is totally worthless in my view. To say 'oh you wish your club had got there' is inexact, of course I wish we had won the Champion's League last season, but not as a pre-cursor for qualifying for the 'super cup'.
I think Spurs would have given their right arm to be playing there last night considering the lack of trophies they have won and the way they celebrated “winning†the Audi Cup 😂
At the end of the day the penalty shoot out resolved who won the trophy so I would class that as important
. I think if you are going to use it then use it all of the time, not just for the 90 minutes or 120 minutes. Seeing if the goalkeeper is off the line or not can be checked in seconds, particularly if it was as clear as you say, I didn't watch the match. Hopefully UEFA, and the PL, will review this and keep a tighter check next time around.
Rlburnside
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At the end of the day the penalty shoot out resolved who won the trophy so I would class that as important
Yes I tend to agree with you, it only took me 30 seconds to freeze frame on my tv so it can't be that hard.
Orikoru
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Think about what you're saying. It would make absolutely no difference, given that if we were in the Super Cup, it would be because we already won the Champion's League or the Europa Cup, thus completely overshadowing the Super Cup anyway. It is totally pointless.
Worse than that, it's almost like a wooden spoon event. 'Congrats on winning that major trophy - your punishment is that you have to travel to Turkey on a Wednesday night to compete for this rubbish one as well.'
clubchamp98
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I can see your point.
But all the Liverpool fans who made the journey won’t.
They prob made a holiday out of it for a week.
If it was at Wembley fair enough but time and place was wrong.
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It’s not pointless at all - certainly not to the club or the players who played in it. I guess when you have never be in that position it’s hard to understand but whilst it isn’t at the level of other trophies it’s still a competitive one as shown by the way the teams set out and played - it wasn’t pointless to them
The timing for the match isn’t great but that’s the price to pay for success - if Spurs were playing last night against Chelsea it would be far from pointless
MegaSteve
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Guessing the footie was crap...
As all the chat appears to be about VAR and the validity/worth of the match...
As all the chat appears to be about VAR and the validity/worth of the match...
Orikoru
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As I said earlier, I'd want us to win, but outweighing that would be my annoyance at the players being knackered playing 120 mins in Turkey on a Wednesday night for a meaningless game. Getting a good start in the league is crucial and this would hardly help.
clubchamp98
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It wasn’t the best ,but both teams played in fits and starts .
The heat made it very difficult for end to end stuff.
The commentators were praising the officials to high heaven ,when the only two big decisions she got both wrong and var backed her up.
J Jennas actually said “they didn’t want to ruin her big night “ jeez,
Both keepers played well .
Thought Chelsea looked quite good in spells, some really nice one twos around our defenders.
The finishing wasn’t great by both teams. Excellent for Mane and Giroud goals though I must say.
It really looked an early season game no real flow to the game.
Stupid time and place imo but no lessons will be learnt by uefa.
clubchamp98
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Possibly but most teams strive all season to get into Europe.
This is just a consequence of success.
Did UEFA state why it was held in Turkey? No real chance of a Turkish team being in the final, it's mighty hot at this time of year and it would only really be semi-handy for an Italian team, of those likely to make it there. For everyone else it is a bad location.
