in recent years DDG has quite often faced more shots than any keeper in the top half. At his peak he single handedly got em top 4, it I agree that’s not usually the norm.
That being said, the logic in my thinking is that shot stopping is only part of the task. The best keepers are there when needed most. facing/saving more shots but at a lower % Doesn’t make a keeper better.
Some examples that come to mind for me over the years are. Freidel (at villa), James (pompey), mignolet (Sunderland). All got lots of plaudits as promising or best of the rest. But none could perform as well when they had their shot.
They still do!! Maguire is very overrated imo, poor positional play often ends in the too many last ditch tackles he likes to make.
But he's Yernited captain and England's 1st choice so this gets overlooked.
Nathan Ake seems to be the one who is being watched by a few teams. Not seen a lot of him but I think Bailly is a serious player. They just need to keep him fit.
The only one you are missing, can't believe he was left off that list, was Jordan. If you want the full set.............There is a common thread amongst them keepers.....![]()
This seems fair to me. Except I'm not sure about the last sentence. Partly because I don't watch enough to have a valid opinion of all the others.For me DDG was woeful for approx 12-18 months when he first come, easily bullied and looked like a very bad signing.
For 2-3 years he was one of the best in the world, and behind a defence that wasnt woeful but not great either. Then he was world class behind a defence that was struggling and a bit like a mid-table keeper he seemed to be making tonnes of great saves, but not necessarily keeping clean sheets, and he was keeping a potentially 2-3 goal defeat down to a 1 goal defeat / draw or win. Not a hell of a lot of mistakes in this 5-6 year period.
The last year or so he is now behind a better defence, but when his is making a mistake its more noticeable, and I do think he has dropped from his previous consistent level, but he is still a very good keeper. He may be stale or need a move. If I was picking a team tomorrow and Alison and Ederson werent available, I'd still pick him.
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+1For me DDG was woeful for approx 12-18 months when he first come, easily bullied and looked like a very bad signing.
For 2-3 years he was one of the best in the world, and behind a defence that wasnt woeful but not great either. Then he was world class behind a defence that was struggling and a bit like a mid-table keeper he seemed to be making tonnes of great saves, but not necessarily keeping clean sheets, and he was keeping a potentially 2-3 goal defeat down to a 1 goal defeat / draw or win. Not a hell of a lot of mistakes in this 5-6 year period.
The last year or so he is now behind a better defence, but when his is making a mistake its more noticeable, and I do think he has dropped from his previous consistent level, but he is still a very good keeper. He may be stale or need a move. If I was picking a team tomorrow and Alison and Ederson werent available, I'd still pick him.
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Dier gets banned and fined - https://www.skysports.com/football/...nder-given-four-match-ban-for-confronting-fan
Not sure Mourinho will be happy
For me DDG was woeful for approx 12-18 months when he first come, easily bullied and looked like a very bad signing.
For 2-3 years he was one of the best in the world, and behind a defence that wasnt woeful but not great either. Then he was world class behind a defence that was struggling and a bit like a mid-table keeper he seemed to be making tonnes of great saves, but not necessarily keeping clean sheets, and he was keeping a potentially 2-3 goal defeat down to a 1 goal defeat / draw or win. Not a hell of a lot of mistakes in this 5-6 year period.
The last year or so he is now behind a better defence, but when his is making a mistake its more noticeable, and I do think he has dropped from his previous consistent level, but he is still a very good keeper. He may be stale or need a move. If I was picking a team tomorrow and Alison and Ederson werent available, I'd still pick him.
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Patricio never gets anywhere near the respect he deserves. But of course, I'm biased.
not fancy the 1000/1 theyre now offering on 10 pts or less lol
It's because he wears the number 12
If he wore a keepers number he would be remembered
Great player
11.
He doesn't wear number 1 as we kinda retired it when our other keeper (Carl Ikeme) got leukaemia.
Edit: Sorry, that sounded really arsey.
yeah 11 is defo not a keeper number!!
I get the retiring of numbers however you cant have a keeper wearing another first team number thats just wrong
just like when Gyan was it for sunderland played up top with a number 2 i believe? or gallas wearing number 10
just wrong on so many levels
13 is a good number for a keeper or anything above 15
Come on, it's old school. Can you imagine someone writing a book about famous number 35's? ?. I still miss the days of 1-11, each position having it's own number.How many levels? I'd like to understand which levels and why.
Do you also want every team to go back to 4-4-2 to match those numbers? ?Come on, it's old school. Can you imagine someone writing a book about famous number 35's? ?. I still miss the days of 1-11, each position having it's own number.
who gives a **** what number he has on his back?
id take Patricio with any number he wants over most keepers in the prem personally