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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Tashyboy said:
Congrats to the Champs, thoroughly deserved and miles ahead of any other team this year. Look forward to seeing the guard of honour at the Etihad.
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Will they be allowed to do it with social distancing? I suppose as long as the Man City players line up in two lines 4m apart then Liverpool players can walk down the middle and still maintain it.

And (through gritted teeth) congratulations to Liverpool on winning the league. By far the best team and well deserved champions.

Obviously there will be an asterisk against your title win as the rules were changed half way through the season so it doesn't count as a "proper" title win but you carry on and enjoy it. ;)
 
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Good exciting game to watch tonight, well done Chelsea and City. Red card was a shame, sort of spoiled it as a contest.
Liverpool untouchable this season, monkey off their back at last. Well done them.
Hoping City can win ECL, certainly good enough.
 
Bit of an anticlimactic finish, I'm sure they would have liked to win it by beating City in the next game. Oh well, roll on next season. I suppose I can pretend I'm interested in the relegation battle for the next few weeks.
 
Orikoru said:
Bit of an anticlimactic finish, I'm sure they would have liked to win it by beating City in the next game. Oh well, roll on next season. I suppose I can pretend I'm interested in the relegation battle for the next few weeks.
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Been the worst season in years for me as a neutral fan. Liverpool had the league sown up by Xmas so no fun there, standard of football in general in the bottom half has been beyond woeful.
Then the virus, long break, league comes back in a rather weird comical way when most other sports are cancelled. And Sheff Utd doing well has just topped it off ??
 
Beezerk said:
Been the worst season in years for me as a neutral fan. Liverpool had the league sown up by Xmas so no fun there, standard of football in general in the bottom half has been beyond woeful.
Then the virus, long break, league comes back in a rather weird comical way when most other sports are cancelled. And Sheff Utd doing well has just topped it off ??
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Yeah, I wasn't going to say it again because I've said that a few times, but I agree wholeheartedly. Didn't even miss it while it was gone. You didn't even mention the clusterf*** that is VAR and the new handball rule. :poop:
 
Orikoru said:
Yeah, I wasn't going to say it again because I've said that a few times, but I agree wholeheartedly. Didn't even miss it while it was gone. You didn't even mention the clusterf*** that is VAR and the new handball rule. :poop:
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Well at least last night VAR got the not terribly subtle handball by the City player right - though goodness knows why it took so long...
 
Fair play to Liverpool. They were by far the best team and have actually been the best team in the Klopp era overall, with only a huge effort from Man City last year stopping them, as well as exploits in Europe.

At the moment, Liverpool have absolutely everything going correctly. Great manager, very smart squad with everyone working hard and feels like a decent wage structure rather than a few guys getting a lot more than others. And also good ambition in the boardroom. Of course you still need to turn up and win the games, which they have done very regularly.

I look at other clubs and it seems absolutely crazy how they are run with bizarre personnel decisions and managers who are clearly not in control of the signing policy. Looking at Arsenal and Man U in particular.

Arsenal seem to have done well to pick up some great young players, but they just don't get the most out of what should be a decent squad and the central defence is any two of 5 or 6 players who all have serious issues be that ability, concentration, fitness. Central midfield not dissimilar. Any club who is going to challenge needs robust and confident players in these positions.

Man U I feel don't have a manager who is good enough to win trophies and is obviously undermined by the board (perhaps one of the reasons he is still there). They have had major issues with big wage players such as Pogba and Sanchez being a huge negative presence. Lingard going the same way and De Gea now looking a liability who they should have cashed in on years ago.

Both clubs should be at least at the business end of the league running clubs close, but at the moment they look further away than Leicester or Wolves.
 
Grant85 said:
Fair play to Liverpool. They were by far the best team and have actually been the best team in the Klopp era overall, with only a huge effort from Man City last year stopping them, as well as exploits in Europe.

At the moment, Liverpool have absolutely everything going correctly. Great manager, very smart squad with everyone working hard and feels like a decent wage structure rather than a few guys getting a lot more than others. And also good ambition in the boardroom. Of course you still need to turn up and win the games, which they have done very regularly.

I look at other clubs and it seems absolutely crazy how they are run with bizarre personnel decisions and managers who are clearly not in control of the signing policy. Looking at Arsenal and Man U in particular.

Arsenal seem to have done well to pick up some great young players, but they just don't get the most out of what should be a decent squad and the central defence is any two of 5 or 6 players who all have serious issues be that ability, concentration, fitness. Central midfield not dissimilar. Any club who is going to challenge needs robust and confident players in these positions.

Man U I feel don't have a manager who is good enough to win trophies and is obviously undermined by the board (perhaps one of the reasons he is still there). They have had major issues with big wage players such as Pogba and Sanchez being a huge negative presence. Lingard going the same way and De Gea now looking a liability who they should have cashed in on years ago.

Both clubs should be at least at the business end of the league running clubs close, but at the moment they look further away than Leicester or Wolves.
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Is that the same Man Utd that are on a 13 match unbeaten run? What you've said is true for them over the season as a whole, but there are signs they may have turned a corner. They're only a couple of players away from having a really top team there. In miles better shape than Arsenal anyway.
 
Orikoru said:
Is that the same Man Utd that are on a 13 match unbeaten run? What you've said is true for them over the season as a whole, but there are signs they may have turned a corner. They're only a couple of players away from having a really top team there. In miles better shape than Arsenal anyway.
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A 13 match unbeaten run that includes a good few draws as well as cup fixtures against lesser teams? Hardly a team on the verge of greatness.

Everyone is only a couple of top players away from being better, but time and time again Man U go into a summer transfer market and pay well over the odds for the wrong player. Do you think Liverpool and Man City aren't going to be trying to sign a couple of top players as well? Not to mention Chelsea, who might well have everything about to click.

To win the league (probably harder to win than the Champions League at the moment) you need absolutely everything working in synergy. And that is not the case at Old Trafford. You could be looking at 90 points not being enough to win the league for quite a while and that is going to price out anyone who doesn't have absolutely everything lined up.
 
Grant85 said:
Fair play to Liverpool. They were by far the best team and have actually been the best team in the Klopp era overall, with only a huge effort from Man City last year stopping them, as well as exploits in Europe.

At the moment, Liverpool have absolutely everything going correctly. Great manager, very smart squad with everyone working hard and feels like a decent wage structure rather than a few guys getting a lot more than others. And also good ambition in the boardroom. Of course you still need to turn up and win the games, which they have done very regularly.

I look at other clubs and it seems absolutely crazy how they are run with bizarre personnel decisions and managers who are clearly not in control of the signing policy. Looking at Arsenal and Man U in particular.

Arsenal seem to have done well to pick up some great young players, but they just don't get the most out of what should be a decent squad and the central defence is any two of 5 or 6 players who all have serious issues be that ability, concentration, fitness. Central midfield not dissimilar. Any club who is going to challenge needs robust and confident players in these positions.

Man U I feel don't have a manager who is good enough to win trophies and is obviously undermined by the board (perhaps one of the reasons he is still there). They have had major issues with big wage players such as Pogba and Sanchez being a huge negative presence. Lingard going the same way and De Gea now looking a liability who they should have cashed in on years ago.

Both clubs should be at least at the business end of the league running clubs close, but at the moment they look further away than Leicester or Wolves.
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You must be looking at and watching a different squad to every Arsenal fan I know. Our squad depth is absolutely dire, whilst we have a couple of gems in Saka, Martinelli, Nketiah and possibly Willock. We also have Ozil taking a wage that's crippling the squad and been ineffective for a couple of years, our defensive options are terrible. Mari has potential to be good, Soares been injured since we signed him, Tierney though decent spends more time on the treatment table than the pitch, Bellerin at RB has been a defensive liability for a couple of seasons and the rest of our CB don't do a lot defensively, Holding is ok but again lots of injuries. As for our Midfield Torriera injured and likely to leave, Xhaka has actually been better recently but thats it.

Aubamayang likely to leave and better he does when we can get money for him rather than free next seasons, then there's Lacazette less said the better for how many times he misses.

Our squad is far from decent and needs major surgery, I fear we won't be competitive for at least another 5 years at top end of table and that's only if the owner opens his wallet.
 
Beezerk said:
Been the worst season in years for me as a neutral fan. Liverpool had the league sown up by Xmas so no fun there, standard of football in general in the bottom half has been beyond woeful.
Then the virus, long break, league comes back in a rather weird comical way when most other sports are cancelled. And Sheff Utd doing well has just topped it off ??
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Sheff been very very poor since the return.. second season syndrome hit early
 
pauljames87 said:
Sheff been very very poor since the return.. second season syndrome hit early
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I have enjoyed watching Shef We’d this season they have been great.
Let’s just hope it’s only a blip since the restart.

It’s great for the younger Liverpool fans to see the lads win the league.
My son is 32 and it’s his first prem win.
Brilliant from Liverpool and we deffo deserved to win it.
Pity we didn’t win it at Anfield Wednesday but that’s life.
Klopp has made a huge difference not in just football but in mentality and has created a winning attitude.
Let’s hope it continues for a long time.
 
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