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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Id love you to be right, sadly courts will never ever apply common sense, they will apply the letter of the law, if not they open themselves up to all sorts! The lawyers know it, the agents know it, the clubs know it, Uefa/Fifa know it
Agree no such thing as common sense in the law.
Courts work in black and white.
The common sense will have to come from everyone in football .
Should give us something to debate in future????
 
Ok so we null and void it for the sake of 71 players whose contracts are up, what then? Who foots the bill to refund the sponsorship money and lost revenues?
 
Ok so we null and void it for the sake of 71 players whose contracts are up, what then? Who foots the bill to refund the sponsorship money and lost revenues?


why do we have to go to that extreme? just because every player isnt at the same club doesnt mean it cant play out, a few players may have left their clubs and a few others may have joined (depending on how quickly we restart) but it can still be finished

Arsenal for eg, Ceballos is going to back to Madrid at the end of June, so be it we finish the season without him. If we sign Upamecano and Partey and theyre available, so be it (yeah I know, I know lol)
 
You can bet your last dollar that any new contracts will have a pandemic clause in from now on.
As in any contract argument someone will win ,someone will lose.
Common sense goes out the window when big money is involved.
 
why do we have to go to that extreme? just because every player isnt at the same club doesnt mean it cant play out, a few players may have left their clubs and a few others may have joined (depending on how quickly we restart) but it can still be finished

Arsenal for eg, Ceballos is going to back to Madrid at the end of June, so be it we finish the season without him. If we sign Upamecano and Partey and theyre available, so be it (yeah I know, I know lol)

Some clubs will be losing influential players, those in relegation positions could end up being weaker, others stronger etc It’s unfair.

Id like to think most players whose in this position would stay and help their current manager/team. Only maybe 1or 2 I would have Thought would jump ship.
 
Some clubs will be losing influential players, those in relegation positions could end up being weaker, others stronger etc It’s unfair.

Id like to think most players whose in this position would stay and help their current manager/team. Only maybe 1or 2 I would have Thought would jump ship.


Not sure its going to be in the players hands all the time though is it. Lets use Ceballos for eg, he may decide hes happy to stay at Arsenal until the season ends but Madrid may refuse that. If Arsenal arent interested in signing him why should Madrid risk him being injured and adversely affecting their "asset" and his value.
 
Not sure its going to be in the players hands all the time though is it. Lets use Ceballos for eg, he may decide hes happy to stay at Arsenal until the season ends but Madrid may refuse that. If Arsenal arent interested in signing him why should Madrid risk him being injured and adversely affecting their "asset" and his value.

Maybe So but all the clubs are pretty much in the same boat.

These players are all insured to a high value, I’m not buying into the asset and value.
 
Maybe So but all the clubs are pretty much in the same boat.

These players are all insured to a high value, I’m not buying into the asset and value.

Not about you buying in to it though is it, its about clubs, players and especially agents manipulating it to their benefit (and using the lawyers to enforce contracts if it suits them). Pretty sure will affect different clubs in pretty different ways too (depending on how many close to end of contract, how many out on loan, how many in on loan, whether anything left to play for etc etc)

Lets be honest, if Ceballos goes back to Madrid we still finish mid table, little impact on us. Lets say compare that to Grealish goes to Man Utd on July 1st, Man U then finish 4th and Villa get relegated. Very different situ for a small group of clubs potentially
 
Not about you buying in to it though is it, its about clubs, players and especially agents manipulating it to their benefit (and using the lawyers to enforce contracts if it suits them). Pretty sure will affect different clubs in pretty different ways too (depending on how many close to end of contract, how many out on loan, how many in on loan, whether anything left to play for etc etc)

Lets be honest, if Ceballos goes back to Madrid we still finish mid table, little impact on us. Lets say compare that to Grealish goes to Man Utd on July 1st, Man U then finish 4th and Villa get relegated. Very different situ for a small group of clubs potentially

which is why no players should be allowed to join a club. I think FIFA have already hinted at witholding registrations.

Anyway most important thing is getting this season finished and collecting our winnings?
 
which is why no players should be allowed to join a club. I think FIFA have already hinted at witholding registrations.

Anyway most important thing is getting this season finished and collecting our winnings?


they can hint all they like, they dont have the "legal" clout to force it through. there will be winners and losers, there always is. at least its only football ;)
 
long standing rule, set out in advance of contracts drawn up, not a new rule introduced post contracts as what youre proposing would be, very different scenarios imo

A rule set out in extraordinary circumstances.

I think a player who may miss out on 3-4 win bonuses wouldnt like all the adverse reaction that would come, as well as a possibly long drawn out legal process. Most if not all would just tell their agents to "leave it". Look at Liverpool and Spurs on the furloughing.
 

A few things may me wonder from that

They appear to have spoken to one club who happy to see the league finished now - I wonder if that club are in danger of going down ?

All the clubs are going to look after themselves- clubs on the edge of CL will want to finish it , same clubs looking to avoid relegation.

I think whilst player contracts are an issue - next season should not start until this season has finished , even if it means waiting until August or September - then having a couple weeks
 
A few things may me wonder from that

They appear to have spoken to one club who happy to see the league finished now - I wonder if that club are in danger of going down ?

All the clubs are going to look after themselves- clubs on the edge of CL will want to finish it , same clubs looking to avoid relegation.

I think whilst player contracts are an issue - next season should not start until this season has finished , even if it means waiting until August or September - then having a couple weeks
Agree, no point asking clubs to give their view as each will vote in their own interests. Clubs doing well will say finish the games or finish it as it is, clubs doing badly will say scrap it. Finish the season in July (with some kind of legislation to extend expiring contracts by two months), and start the new one in September.
 
Yea got to agree, it’s looking more likely that there won’t be any big gatherings this year, so no football I hope they don’t try and play with no crowds.
Agree can’t see it happening ,
How can a PL defender mark his man if he is not allowed within 2 mts of him.?
social distancing is here for a long time according to the briefing yesterday.
How does the phisio deal with injuries on the pitch?
 
Agree can’t see it happening ,
How can a PL defender mark his man if he is not allowed within 2 mts of him.?
social distancing is here for a long time according to the briefing yesterday.
How does the phisio deal with injuries on the pitch?
And yet the Bundesliga teams are back training, games due to start again in May.

We have to be careful not to get too insular and down about what is happening right now. Other countries are looking at relaxing restrictions, Sweden has largely carried on as normal throughout. We have seen pictures on here in the last two days of golfers in Australia and Sweden happily playing. There are ways around this, other countries will get there ahead of us because their timeline is different. We see what they do, how things develop in those countries. We copy the good, learn from what happens.
 
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