Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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fundy said:
as someone who went home and away during the George Graham era some of us still bear the scars lol

eternally grateful for how much that changed under Wenger (and Dein), sadly that era dragged out a bit too long and left an uphill battle for the followers which is not going to be resolved overnight or by one managerial appt
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But there were good times under Graham as well (winning the title at Anfield, FA cup and Cup Winners. 1-0 to the Arsenal wouldn't be a bad philosophy at the moment. I do agree as a neutral that aside from Wright upfront there was often very little attacking flair. Guess the argument was it largely worked.

That said, Wenger was a total revolution from his tactics, training and even dietary requirements and definitely brought the success back. I do think its sad, to a small degree the last couple of seasons have tarnished what would have been a fine legacy at the club and given the board and any manager a big job to rebuild and challenge. Surely there has to be realisation (especially amongst sections of the fans) that it's a long haul and for once, a manager needs time and funds to do that
 
HomerJSimpson said:
But there were good times under Graham as well (winning the title at Anfield, FA cup and Cup Winners. 1-0 to the Arsenal wouldn't be a bad philosophy at the moment. I do agree as a neutral that aside from Wright upfront there was often very little attacking flair. Guess the argument was it largely worked.

That said, Wenger was a total revolution from his tactics, training and even dietary requirements and definitely brought the success back. I do think its sad, to a small degree the last couple of seasons have tarnished what would have been a fine legacy at the club and given the board and any manager a big job to rebuild and challenge. Surely there has to be realisation (especially amongst sections of the fans) that it's a long haul and for once, a manager needs time and funds to do that
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There were good times but it was a very hard watch at times. Wednesday night away game, long journey, and the worst thing that could happen was we scored early as we knew we would then be defending for the rest of the game! Remember leaving a Villa game at half time when it was 1-0 as there was nothing left to see and better off celebrating the win early!!!

Wenger was a revelation, and we massively over achieved and had some great times playing great football. As fans we were spoilt thats for sure, the sadness comes that after Dein left the club didnt build on the first half of Wengers tenure, then stagnated and then regressed (at a time when other clubs fuelled by large funds were going the other way)

Not sure the main issue currently is at the manager level, its higher up in the club than that and ultimately were more than likely to regress back to where we were 25 years ago unless there are changes at board level
 
Piece said:
As 2-0 defeats go, a good one. Had chances but for most of this season, didn't take them. Our season starts next week.
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Play like that for the rest of the season and you may stay up
 
Choo choo The Top Of The League Klopp Express rolls onto Qatar.

Not even a racist Tory prime minister/government is stopping us winning this Mickey mouse league ??
 
Bet365 have paid out on Liverpool winning the league already, can’t see any other outcome in fairness, they’ve been superb this season so far.
Chelsea could do with getting a few bodies in, in January, struggling at the moment.
 
It was a very scrappy game , Watford caused a lot of troubles with their physical nature - real good battle , Alisson made some great saves but two quality finishes from Mo was enough to do the job . VAR once again embarrassing
 
BrianM said:
Chelsea could do with getting a few bodies in, in January, struggling at the moment.
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desperately needed, extremely poor display yesterday, a very lack lustre performance against a team that couldn’t buy a result previously, the players can have no complaints when new players arrive if they don’t put a shift in and get benched, even with a mix of youth and seniors it was the flattest effort I’ve seen all season.

we’ve been in a false position and punching above our weight for a while, but we’ve held on by having a good start putting a few points between us and the pack underneath, but that’s slowly eroding, we have some excellent talent and I think with a couple of experienced players in exposed areas will give us the stability and kick we need.

Frank is learning also, some changes no doubt giving players a rest against so-called weaker opposition hasn’t worked, but I’m sure he’ll learn from those errors quickly, but our squad is young and light, the January window will be interesting to see where we focus our signings and what support the board will give him to get what we desperately need.
 
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