Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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I think Spurs have a buy back clause from the original transfer so could have first option, but I can't see us buying him unless he would take a big drop in wages, it will depend on how ambitious Bale is in football terms where he will end up.

Or he could ride it out and rake in more money and play golf at the short course he had built at his house.
I can't see any Premier league side footing the bill for his wages. Spurs just can't see them paying it, Utd are stuck with Sanchez wage bill and the increase in Rashfords can't see them taking the hit, Chelsea are banned, City don't need him and he would likely not start games so they won't sign him, can't see Liverpool paying him that wage when they already have Mane in that position. Arsenal well were stuck with Ozil being a passenger in a high wage and we're struggling to meet terms with Tierney and Zaha so rules us out.

That means all the big names are out of bank rolling the fee and salary. Look at the next tier clubs, I can't see Everton, Watford, Wolves, Leicester affording his wage demands. Effectively unless he takes a huge drop I don't see a Premier league team showing a genuine interest. Realistically it only leaves someone like Bayern, PSG or Juve in Europe being able to afford his salary. Juve don't need him, PSG have Mbappe so that's just Bayern. Which maybe a possibility I guess but again don't see them being interested if he can't be bothered in Spain where its always warm he won't be interested in Germany where its gets sodding freezing cold.

They were saying the same thing on talksport that he's been priced out of a move that nobody is showing real interest and his only option is to take a huge pay cut or do a Winston Bogarde.

It's gonna be interesting to see this one pan out
 

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Where are you reading that? All I can find on the news sites, Twitter etc. is that Arsenal's bid has been rejected as Celtic feel the add-on clauses are unrealistic...

Saw somewhere yesterday, sure it was BBC gossip column that Tierney has agreed personal terms with Arsenal, they just need to make a bid acceptable to Celtic which will probably happen sometime this week.
 
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Looks like Kieran Tierney is at last off to Arsenal, hope Celtic have added a big sell on clause into the contract, 6 months playing is the EPL he will suddendly be worh £100 M, if he gets a game that is. IMHO he is a better left back than Andy Robertson.

I suspect Tierney will leave at some point surprised Spurs aren’t looking at him as a replacement for Rose but better than Robbo ?! That’s needs to be proven because imo Robertson is the best left back in European Football.

In regards all the talk about Bale - it’s poor what Madrid are doing but it’s an arrogant club with an arrogant manager so it’s no surprise - I would have him at Liverpool in a flash , he is still an outstanding player , but those wages stop him from playing in the Prem. Will prob end up at PSG or Bayern
 

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I'd Tierney has the potential to be as good as Robertson, but not at that level yet, needs to prove it in a top league. Tough break for him really, being a Scottish LB at the same time as Robertson, and for Scotland as well, as they've got one world class and one potentially world class player and they both play the same position.
 

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Looks like Kieran Tierney is at last off to Arsenal, hope Celtic have added a big sell on clause into the contract, 6 months playing is the EPL he will suddendly be worh £100 M, if he gets a game that is. IMHO he is a better left back than Andy Robertson.

A better left back than Robertson, what are you smoking 🤣🤣
Once he’s proved himself in arguably the toughest league in the world and the Champions League, then you can start comparing.
There’s not a better left back than Andy Robertson at the moment.
 

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Anyone else wondering when ANY of those proposed transfers will actually take place. Maybe they run out of money? or players are finally over priced. £100+ MILLIOn for Pogba . LOL !!!! I wouldn't pay him in washers.
 

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Anyone else wondering when ANY of those proposed transfers will actually take place. Maybe they run out of money? or players are finally over priced. £100+ MILLIOn for Pogba . LOL !!!! I wouldn't pay him in washers.
Clubs like Real, Juve, PSG, Barca and Bayern won't run out of money.

The exorbitant transfer fees are easily affordable to them due to the commercialisation of the game. Juve prime example €94m for a player his age was questioned over here, they made that and more back in 3 days of shirt sales l, he's been a success in the pitch and now everything they make is profit so effectively he didn't cost a thing.
 

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Anyone else wondering when ANY of those proposed transfers will actually take place. Maybe they run out of money? or players are finally over priced. £100+ MILLIOn for Pogba . LOL !!!! I wouldn't pay him in washers.
You would have thought the bubble would have burst but no sign yet. I remember reading about the Neymar transfer and the thinking behind PSG signing him. Yes because he is a good player but it was as much to do with him opening the S.American market for PSG's sponsors. Pogba is similar to Beckham in that his social media following makes him even more attractive to a team than his playing abilities. The commercial people at a football club dream about a Beckham or a Pogba.

The money in football is now so driven by commercial reasons, sponsors, advertisers, tv (which themselves are driven by sponsors etc) that the actual revenue from fans etc is nearly irrelevant. There is no sign on the horizon of that bubble bursting.
 

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I'd Tierney has the potential to be as good as Robertson, but not at that level yet, needs to prove it in a top league. Tough break for him really, being a Scottish LB at the same time as Robertson, and for Scotland as well, as they've got one world class and one potentially world class player and they both play the same position.

The way Robertson goes forward, I’d have thought they could play em both. I recall England doing it with Cole and Bridge when we were short of left sided players.

I don’t follow the Scottish footy team, but Id be amazed if they have someone who could play left wing better than Robertson if tierney played lb.
 

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The way Robertson goes forward, I’d have thought they could play em both. I recall England doing it with Cole and Bridge when we were short of left sided players.

I don’t follow the Scottish footy team, but Id be amazed if they have someone who could play left wing better than Robertson if tierney played lb.
It's the same problem Wan-Bissaka is going to have really. I suspect that before long Alexander-Arnold will be England's first choice at RB, and AWB will be behind him for the vast majority of his career. Bit like being Andrew Cole or Fowler in the era of Shearer, Sheringham, Ferdinand etc.
 

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It's the same problem Wan-Bissaka is going to have really. I suspect that before long Alexander-Arnold will be England's first choice at RB, and AWB will be behind him for the vast majority of his career. Bit like being Andrew Cole or Fowler in the era of Shearer, Sheringham, Ferdinand etc.
You are assuming no drop in form, no injuries. It is rare for that to happen over a long time, although not impossible. Think of the hype around Trippier after the last World Cup, the season he had before that. Poor next season and off to Spain for £20m, peanuts now.

The pendulum could swing at any time and England are lucky to have two players of their ability.
 

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You are assuming no drop in form, no injuries. It is rare for that to happen over a long time, although not impossible. Think of the hype around Trippier after the last World Cup, the season he had before that. Poor next season and off to Spain for £20m, peanuts now.

The pendulum could swing at any time and England are lucky to have two players of their ability.
I think it's different because Trippier wasn't a youngster, he was just in good form. When a player has already proved themself at the highest level at 19 or 20 you expect them to go from strength to strength. Admittedly not always the case.

As a side issue it's annoying that England have so many decent right back options but barely a fraction of those good options at left back, or centre back. Or midfield. Maybe we should just play Wan-Bissaka at left back?? Sure he could manage.
 

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I think it's different because Trippier wasn't a youngster, he was just in good form. When a player has already proved themself at the highest level at 19 or 20 you expect them to go from strength to strength. Admittedly not always the case.

As a side issue it's annoying that England have so many decent right back options but barely a fraction of those good options at left back, or centre back. Or midfield. Maybe we should just play Wan-Bissaka at left back?? Sure he could manage.
Some progress, some stay still and peak at 19. Has John Stones progressed how we hoped? Don't think he has. We do tend to build young players up into world beaters before they are ready to truly be in that category.

There is usually a reason some players are on the right and some are on the left. You can shoe horn them onto the other side of the pitch but they will get caught out at the highest level becasue they are not quite comforatable enough on the other side of the pitch.

Having a debate about who is the better right back is nicer than debating who is the least worst option at CB :D
 

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Some progress, some stay still and peak at 19. Has John Stones progressed how we hoped? Don't think he has. We do tend to build young players up into world beaters before they are ready to truly be in that category.

There is usually a reason some players are on the right and some are on the left. You can shoe horn them onto the other side of the pitch but they will get caught out at the highest level becasue they are not quite comforatable enough on the other side of the pitch.

Having a debate about who is the better right back is nicer than debating who is the least worst option at CB :D
Bad example for me as I never rated Stones much. :LOL:

I think it's a shame that more professional players aren't two footed. Really, in this day and age a top full back should be able to play either side comfortably. Phil Neville managed it and that was 15 years ago. I play left back at Sunday league and my left foot is only for standing on. :LOL: It's honestly not wildly different just playing on the opposite side.
 

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It's the same problem Wan-Bissaka is going to have really. I suspect that before long Alexander-Arnold will be England's first choice at RB, and AWB will be behind him for the vast majority of his career. Bit like being Andrew Cole or Fowler in the era of Shearer, Sheringham, Ferdinand etc.

I agree, but for Scotland I'd imagine if they really are that good then you can play them in the team still.
 

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Bad example for me as I never rated Stones much. :LOL:

I think it's a shame that more professional players aren't two footed. Really, in this day and age a top full back should be able to play either side comfortably. Phil Neville managed it and that was 15 years ago. I play left back at Sunday league and my left foot is only for standing on. :LOL: It's honestly not wildly different just playing on the opposite side.

I'd imagine the players you face aren't quite as good as those a pl left back would face.

Jt is up there with England's best cbs and yet he would always want to play on a specific side of centre....

Small margins at the top, if you're not usinf your natural foot to make a tackle/block that split second be the difference between contact or early bath.
 
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