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Money just has no meaning in football anymore, especially for English players. Seen this morning Newcastle are rejecting £30mil for that Longstaff lad. He's played even less Premier League games than Mings. Game's gone.
 

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Failed in the Prem already and had to drop down a league to get a game 😂
Give me Maguire for 80m every time lol.
Definitely. No doubt Mings has potential but has never really broken through at Bournemouth in the PL and did ok at Villa. I would rather have a Maguire every time especially with the Mings disciplinary record on top which indicates he has a hot head, something a good PL striker will try and expose. On the plus side in the bid to return to the PL Fulham have signed Mitrovic on a five year deal which is good news. I thought he might go to a PL side but he'll be massive again for us. Looks like Liverpool are going to get our next rising star Harvey Elliott. Rumours have it he's well ahead of Sessignon at a similar stage
 

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Definitely. No doubt Mings has potential but has never really broken through at Bournemouth in the PL and did ok at Villa. I would rather have a Maguire every time especially with the Mings disciplinary record on top which indicates he has a hot head, something a good PL striker will try and expose. On the plus side in the bid to return to the PL Fulham have signed Mitrovic on a five year deal which is good news. I thought he might go to a PL side but he'll be massive again for us. Looks like Liverpool are going to get our next rising star Harvey Elliott. Rumours have it he's well ahead of Sessignon at a similar stage

That's obvious, but Villa aren't going to get him are they.....
£20m for an english cb is chicken feed these days.
 
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That's obvious, but Villa aren't going to get him are they.....
£20m for an english cb is chicken feed these days.

I don’t think they will understand

£20mil is nothing right now when you look at the grand scheme -

He suffered a nasty knee injury which had him out for a year and when back fit Bournemouth were more settled and struggled to get game time - went to Villa on loan , played every single game moving into CB.

There are players in the championship that have £30mil price tags on them , the prices are crazy now and Mings for Villa was superb hence why they have bought him
 

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I don’t think they will understand

£20mil is nothing right now when you look at the grand scheme -

He suffered a nasty knee injury which had him out for a year and when back fit Bournemouth were more settled and struggled to get game time - went to Villa on loan , played every single game moving into CB.

There are players in the championship that have £30mil price tags on them , the prices are crazy now and Mings for Villa was superb hence why they have bought him
Patronising as usual. I have seen his career and take into account the injury and accept Bournemouth were a stronger unit when he came back (perhaps not so much so ironically after he went on loan) and yes he has done ok at Villa but I don't think he's a finished product especially at CB. Granted there is a lack of viable options out there but I think it is still a hefty price tag for someone that may or may not make the PL grade at CB
 

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Diego Costa rumoured to be coming back to the Premier League and Wolves are 4/1 to get him.

If you think I want that master of the dark arts, cheating and pushing and basically winding up the opposition up play for my team....you'd be absolutely right.
What makes you think he will do that. He never did it at chelsea 🤔😉
 

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Definitely. No doubt Mings has potential but has never really broken through at Bournemouth in the PL and did ok at Villa. I would rather have a Maguire every time especially with the Mings disciplinary record on top which indicates he has a hot head, something a good PL striker will try and expose. On the plus side in the bid to return to the PL Fulham have signed Mitrovic on a five year deal which is good news. I thought he might go to a PL side but he'll be massive again for us. Looks like Liverpool are going to get our next rising star Harvey Elliott. Rumours have it he's well ahead of Sessignon at a similar stage

So you think that Mings has a bit of a hot head due to his disciplinary record. 18 games, 4 yellows and a red card for Villa isn't that bad for a defender especially with cards being handed out like confetti in the modern game, and the red was for a second yellow so not a straight red card. But signing Mitrovic is good news, despite the fact that he is well known for having a hot head. 77 (Prem) games, 11 yellows and two straight reds is hardly a great record for a forward.
 

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Perez and even better Tielemans, some great business by Leicester in this window so far. If we can keep hold of the likes of Maguire it could be an exciting season ahead (although nothing could ever top 2015/16).
 

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Perez and even better Tielemans, some great business by Leicester in this window so far. If we can keep hold of the likes of Maguire it could be an exciting season ahead (although nothing could ever top 2015/16).

In all honesty when City played Leicester, it was proper squeaky bum time. Leicester had a fantastic well drilled team. £90 million for Maguire could be money well invested in that team.
 

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Perez and even better Tielemans, some great business by Leicester in this window so far. If we can keep hold of the likes of Maguire it could be an exciting season ahead (although nothing could ever top 2015/16).

In all honesty mate a lot of Toon fans don't really rate Perez at all, it's just he's the best of a bad bunch lol.
 

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So you think that Mings has a bit of a hot head due to his disciplinary record. 18 games, 4 yellows and a red card for Villa isn't that bad for a defender especially with cards being handed out like confetti in the modern game, and the red was for a second yellow so not a straight red card. But signing Mitrovic is good news, despite the fact that he is well known for having a hot head. 77 (Prem) games, 11 yellows and two straight reds is hardly a great record for a forward.
Your numbers cover the whole career including Newcastle where he was notoriously hot headed. However at Fulham last season 2018/19 only 9 yellows in the PL in 48 games (all comps inc internationals), https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=67457&season_id=151 and in the championship the year before it was even better and just 6 (again all comps). https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=67457&season_id=150 When Jokanavic was in charge he really found a way to calm him down and Ranieri took that on as well and I think Parker will do the same
 
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In all honesty mate a lot of Toon fans don't really rate Perez at all, it's just he's the best of a bad bunch lol.
My son had a season ticket for 3 yrs at the Toon. In his view Perez is largely a passenger who pops up every now and again. He has finished the last 2 seasons well but he doesn't play a full season. Most fans I came across when the transfer came up said take their hand off.

Your whole post is spot on, in a bad team an average player seems okay.

The bigger issue is not that Perez has gone but they are not replacing him, Diame or Rondon and can't do until they have a manager. The clock is ticking but apparently not at St James park.
 

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My son had a season ticket for 3 yrs at the Toon. In his view Perez is largely a passenger who pops up every now and again. He has finished the last 2 seasons well but he doesn't play a full season. Most fans I came across when the transfer came up said take their hand off.

Your whole post is spot on, in a bad team an average player seems okay.

The bigger issue is not that Perez has gone but they are not replacing him, Diame or Rondon and can't do until they have a manager. The clock is ticking but apparently not at St James park.

Aye, Perez seems to be sub quite a lot which is odd if he's such a quality player.
Who are they left with if Rondon doesn't stay, Gayle? :LOL: Worrying times ahead for them.
We discussed it over a few rounds this weekend, the general feeling is this could be the year the club finally loses the fans if something positive doesn't happen. I know the fans are already massively disheartened, but the takeover rumours got them renewing season tickets again and now they are seemingly left with a load of dross. It's quite funny really ;)
 

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Aye, Perez seems to be sub quite a lot which is odd if he's such a quality player.
Who are they left with if Rondon doesn't stay, Gayle? :LOL: Worrying times ahead for them.
We discussed it over a few rounds this weekend, the general feeling is this could be the year the club finally loses the fans if something positive doesn't happen. I know the fans are already massively disheartened, but the takeover rumours got them renewing season tickets again and now they are seemingly left with a load of dross. It's quite funny really ;)
Yup, I'm pleased it is not my team. Rondon has already gone back, his loan period has expired, so they are left with Gayle as the only striker, someone who has consistently failed at that level. The two top scorers last year have gone, oops.

It's an absolute car crash. No manager, no manager in sight. No manager likely to come until the takeover is resolved one way or the other and blimey that has gone quiet. No players likely to be signed because why would you come to a club when you don't know if the manager will like you. Why would Ashley agree to signings anyway when he is soon to be off, or not of course. It is a perfect storm and I suspect they will currently be favourites for the drop, quite rightly. They desperately need the ownership situation resolving followed by a manager installing a day or two after.

Will they really lose the fans? They turn up whatever. It is a Pavlov's dog situation, it's match day, go the match. No matter how badly they dislike the owner and the team they go. Toon fans love a good moan :D. Interesting to watch from the outside but sad at the same time, they are like a boat slowly rusting.
 

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Sissoko was the last Toon player who left for £30M, and after looking dross at the start thankfully he's turned it round.
However £30M for Perez is a massive amount and I don't think he'll stand up to that value. I feel he's very limited and not a player who stands out. I think he's a bit lightweight too
 
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