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[Deleted member 16999]

No but I'm sure they do care about the result. Walking off and the match just gets replayed isn't a deterrent. If we walk off we need to know we're backed by UEFA and that Bulgaria are punished, firstly by giving us the result automatically (even if we weren't leading the game), and subsequently by them having to play behind closed doors or even being banned from competing.

It's not that hard to understand so hopefully I don't have to explain to you a third time.

It’s not that straightforward either, England v AN Other in a WC Match, 3rd set of fans or locals abuse opposition in the hope England get banned or opposition get given game.

 

[fundy]

So what action do UEFA take?

1 game behind closed doors and a 25k fine or are they finally going to take it seriously?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I still believe we have racist issues in our game and can’t take a “holier than thou” attitude, Ian Wright speaking very well about the subject.

Thought England put in a really good performance, Mings may not be the answer, but a far better player than Keane, Chillwell looked much better than Rose. Barkley probably had his best game in an England shirt.

 

[clubchamp98]

On the footy.
Bit wasteful from us we should have put double figures past them tonight.

EUFA just what I expected all talk in the end no balls.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No but I'm sure they do care about the result. Walking off and the match just gets replayed isn't a deterrent. If we walk off we need to know we're backed by UEFA and that Bulgaria are punished, firstly by giving us the result automatically (even if we weren't leading the game), and subsequently by them having to play behind closed doors or even being banned from competing.

It's not that hard to understand so hopefully I don't have to explain to you a third time.

It’s time for a team to take action - and if that means walking off to force UEFA to make a strong statement about it then it needs to happen - players should never ever feel they need to stay on a pitch listening to racist abuse regardless of result - it’s no surprise you fail to understand that

 

[Deleted member 16999]

So what action do UEFA take?

1 game behind closed doors and a 25k fine or are they finally going to take it seriously?

I think tonight is the turning point of taking the power from UEFA and giving it to the teams, hopefully it will lead to other teams taking it seriously and protecting their players.
UEFA will then be forced into stepping up their response.

 

[fundy]

I think tonight is the turning point of taking the power from UEFA and giving it to the teams, hopefully it will lead to other teams taking it seriously and protecting their players.
UEFA will then be forced into stepping up their response.

I hope youre right, I genuinely think we would be closer to that point if tonights game hadnt actually finished and UEFAs hand was forced, until it is they will keep dodging the issue if their previous is anything to go by

 

[Orikoru]

It’s time for a team to take action - and if that means walking off to force UEFA to make a strong statement about it then it needs to happen - players should never ever feel they need to stay on a pitch listening to racist abuse regardless of result - it’s no surprise you fail to understand that

I'm pretty sure teams have walked off before already haven't they? Did it work?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

You have knowledge of the squad Stu?
You need to come out the closet about your support for England.

Yeah, I actually watch Sky Sports news and listen to 5Live, I dont switch off when they talk about how great they are 😉

Knowledge is power 👍

 

[fundy]

so throwing 50 people out at half time and a reduced level of racism was enough to allow the second half to be played. WALOFS

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I hope youre right, I genuinely think we would be closer to that point if tonights game hadnt actually finished and UEFAs hand was forced, until it is they will keep dodging the issue if their previous is anything to go by

As they’ve just mentioned those protocols have been in place 10yrs and only now is a team making a stand.
Hopefully it will give other teams the confidence to walk off.

 

[fundy]

As they’ve just mentioned those protocols have been in place 10yrs and only now is a team making a stand.
Hopefully it will give other teams the confidence to walk off.

listening to that interview from Greg Clarke England should have walked off, clear and simple for me

 

[Slime]

so throwing 50 people out at half time and a reduced level of racism was enough to allow the second half to be played. WALOFS

Apparently it's what Southgate and the team wanted, are they wrong, too?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

listening to that interview from Greg Clarke England should have walked off, clear and simple for me

Maybe, but I do think UEFA and others would simply point out the issues in our game to deflect from themselves.
That was the tactic used by the Bulgarian coach yesterday in his pre-match interview.

 

[Slime]

So the player has to continue kicking a ball about and listen to bigots , fascists and racists shouting abuse at him because of the colour of their skin all because of a game ?! I can’t comprehend that you think that’s the right thing to do

UEFA tonight have failed to follow through on their own protocol - the minute the racist abuse started again second half they should have walked off.

Surely you mean England?

 

[fundy]

Maybe, but I do think UEFA and others would simply point out the issues in our game to deflect from themselves.
That was the tactic used by the Bulgarian coach yesterday in his pre-match interview.

He admitted that they were at phase 3 of the protocol, that players and backroom staff were clearly affected, the racism was reduced but continued after that point, yet he failed to act

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Surely you mean England?

No UEFA - there was clear racist abuse being heard in the second half - it’s up to the UEFA officials who heard to act

 

[fundy]

The way these interviews are its as if England had planned to get it to the brink without following through!

Would have liked to have heard more from Wrighty calling out Greg Clarke personally

 

[Slime]

No UEFA - there was clear racist abuse being heard in the second half - it’s up to the UEFA officials who heard to act

But it was up to England to walk off, and they chose not to.
Enough has been seen and heard in this match to, hopefully, achieve the correct actions going forward.
I think the England players and staff have unequivocally moved the racist goalposts, with their reactions to tonight's events, and that can only be a good thing.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The way these interviews are its as if England had planned to get it to the brink without following through!

Would have liked to have heard more from Wrighty calling out Greg Clarke personally

Agreed, Mings and Southgate stated it was a Squad decision to play the 2nd half and Mings didn’t say he heard anything in that half.
Wrighty was spot on and I don’t think it’ll be the last time we hear from him.