Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Deleted member 21784]

I’m not sure what “point” you think you have made but lll clear a few things up for you

As I initially stated I saw a quick replay of the incident and from that it looked a clean but hard tackle hence my questions , I also heard the same sort of opinion on various phone ins hence asking was it actually a red card.

As for the Kompany tackle - from what I remember he was off the ground two footed with one foot going over the ball connecting with Mane was it ?

Now I have seen a report from Robbie Savage who has said something along the lines of what Fundy said and also what i questioned , also heard the guys on Talksport again this morning discussing the merits of the red card and questioning tackles on the ground where people can’t stop their follow through.

Now looking at the still above it doesn’t look great and that’s the follow through because of the force , you see a number of those stills after forceful tackle

I’m watching MOTD 2 tonight so will no doubt have a better look at it - but either way it’s just an opinion.

Look out Phil is reversing

 

[Pin-seeker]

Imagine “debating” when you haven’t actually seen it properly 😂😂
Then going on what the phone ins say 😂😂

 

[clubchamp98]

Point made I think. Who knew that the colour of the player's shirt can influence your entire attitude towards tackling?

Or diving!
Think that’s always been the case.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Both were not great but Kompany's was a yellow for me while Hayden's was a stonewall red. Kompany actually made the challenge with one foot not two, and it was certainly lower to the ground, just mistimed. For you to have demanded a red for that but say Hayden's should be allowed is backward at best.

Both won the ball but both were reckless and dangerous,only difference is one player got clattered, the other luckily skipped the challenge.

Both red cards though.

 

[Dan2501]

Both won the ball but both were reckless and dangerous,only difference is one player got clattered, the other luckily skipped the challenge.

Both red cards though.

This. The Kompany one only looks better because Salah saw him coming and was able to avoid most of the contact. Both reds, both awful challenges, the Hayden one just looks worse because of the position Praet is in when he gets clattered.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I thought the defender had to be in control with tackles, and leaving the floor whether contact is made or not is not in control...ergo red card.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I thought the defender had to be in control with tackles, and leaving the floor whether contact is made or not is not in control...ergo red card.

I'm sure our resident ref will confirm the exact rule 🤭

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Both were not great but Kompany's was a yellow for me while Hayden's was a stonewall red. Kompany actually made the challenge with one foot not two, and it was certainly lower to the ground, just mistimed. For you to have demanded a red for that but say Hayden's should be allowed is backward at best.

So Kompany is off his feet diving into a ball and yet you think it’s only a yellow ? He is off his feet , that’s out of control - a clear red all day long is it not ? If Salah didnt jump out of the way quickly then that could have been very nasty.

 

[clubchamp98]

Both won the ball but both were reckless and dangerous,only difference is one player got clattered, the other luckily skipped the challenge.

Both red cards though.

You missed out Hayden wasn’t wearing a City shirt!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Looking at these two teams, I fancy Arsenal to win tonight and might have a few quid on them for interest.

 

[fundy]

Looking at these two teams, I fancy Arsenal to win tonight and might have a few quid on them for interest.

which bit of the awful defense and the unbalanced midfield appeals to you? Aubam or bust that line up (as per usual)

 

[Piece]

Hoping it’s more than a huff n puff 0-0

 

[USER1999]

I don't think Torreira plays with Xhaka. That said, who could?
Would have liked to see Tierney start, and Holding. Chambers is the best option at RB, if only going forwards, if Bellerin is not fit enough yet.
Apart from Xhaka and the CB issue, I am not sure what else Dick could have done, with Laca unfit.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

which bit of the awful defense and the unbalanced midfield appeals to you? Aubam or bust that line up (as per usual)

It was more a case of how shite yernited are. I covered no goalscorer too 😉

 

[fundy]

I don't think Torreira plays with Xhaka. That said, who could?
Would have liked to see Tierney start, and Holding. Chambers is the best option at RB, if only going forwards, if Bellerin is not fit enough yet.
Apart from Xhaka and the CB issue, I am not sure what else Dick could have done, with Laca unfit.

Getting rid of Xhaka would be a good start! Playing Torreira as the most advanced of the 3 in central midfield and Ceballos on the bench doesnt make any sense

As for the back 4..................

 

[fundy]

Chambers in all sorts of trouble inside 10 mins, has no help in front or from inside

 

[Piece]

Both keepers can get their deck chairs out.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Both keepers can get their deck chairs out.

Sharp enough save by Leno but aside from that and a dodgy kick by De Gea they've not featured. Arsenal and Chambers in particular got through a tricky opening and look like their growing into it. That said the Arsenal defence always make me nervous about their ability to keep a clean sheet

 

[fundy]

Utterly embarrassing, players clearly uncomfortable being asked to play the way they are, horrible structure, set up to defend without any of them actually being able to, relying on the top 3 to create for themselves. Ceballos warming the bench whilst we play 3 holding midfielders, none of whom actually are

and we may still be the better side on the pitch lol

oh and the moaning and diving culture is clearly being encouraged

 

[USER1999]

What a scrappy load of poo.