D
Deleted member 1740
Guest
I was just reciting what I’d heard/read. It was actually 15 PL points in the last 15 PL games.
Today was a poor result from your position, they’re not a very good side in all honesty.
Lucky/stupid rule rescued you a point at city too.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I don't think a point away at Arsenal is bad at all.
As for the last bit, I thought you were talking about results? The result there was an away point at Man City which very few teams will get.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Fulham found that out when we went from 1st qualifying to the final. Brutal amount of games for a wafer thin squad and although we finished 12th in the PL we played some clearly weaker sides in the last few matches to save players for the Europa league.
I agree they are not in trouble at the bottom end. Without the EL I think Wolves could have attacked the 4-6 slot but I don't think that will be possible with the extra games and travel.
D
Deleted member 1740
Guest
My thought is it's an easier task to get 12-15 results in the EL than being consistent over 38 games in the PL.
Realistically, with a big of luck regards the draw they could easily win that EL
I think that is a very fair point. They could get an unlucky draw when the CL teams join in but I agree that Wolves are capable of winning it, it would be great if they did. The shame is, and why I am anti the EL for Everton, is that they are almost having to prioritise the EL over the PL. To do well in both is very difficult unless you have a real depth of squad and I don't think they quite have that. I would have liked to see if Wolves could have kicked on in the PL this season, let's see if Leicester, Wolves and Everton can shake up the 3-6 place teams, but I think Wolves will be left out of the equation.
Tashyboy
Please don’t ask to see my tatts 👍
Missis T watched it last night and said penalty, nailed on. They showed it from another angle and said he is a grade one cheat. This diving business and I don't just mean Kane, it must take some practising to perfect it.
Tashyboy
Please don’t ask to see my tatts 👍
Unless you can get 7 points from your next game I would suggest you have had one good result and three bad uns..ðŸ‘
Am sure I did not see Citys draw v Spurs as a good result, irrespective of VAR.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
It was a very clumsy push by the defender but Kane put his body in the way . He is entitled to do that.
What I don’t like about what Kane does is he puts his feet together around the defenders leg , he has a habit of doing this to look like he’s been tripped.
I have seen them given both ways.
He is protecting the ball?
So was Teilamens for Leicester apparently ??? That’s why he never got a red card.
It’s difficult to say either way these players are very clever, but once they get a reputation,and Kane is getting one.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Sorry, we're not all Man City and expect to win every game. That mathematically wouldn't work anyway.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Nail on head there I think. What he's done in this game, I wouldn't call it diving as I consider a dive to be throwing yourself down without any contact. He's put himself in a position where he gets in between the defender and the ball, waits for contact and then goes down. But it's that dragging of his feet on the way down that makes it look like a dive. He did actually get two hands in the back from Sokratis - probably not enough for a penalty in my view - but if he'd have gone down more naturally without the foot-dragging then perhaps it might have actually been given. He's making things look like dives even when there's contact at the minute. Potentially why we didn't get the Newcastle one either. It's just visually swaying the ref against the penalty call. I think you're right, until he stops dragging his legs to exaggerate the fall, I don't think he's going to get many penalties this season.
Richarlison was doing it for us yesterday, a similar technique. It drove me nuts. They waste energy and good chances through looking for a foul or a penalty instead of just trying to score or get in a good position. Neither need to do it and refs are getting wise to it. They need someone to have a word and tell them to cut it out.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah, with Kane's one yesterday I felt he had a chance to cut the ball across goal with his left foot, maybe produce an own goal or find its way through to Dele (I think) at the back post. But he elected to slow down and wait for the contact from Sokratis. Obviously if you don't get it you've wasted an opportunity.
Kellfire
Blackballed
Kane's doing what Vardy's been doing since the year Leicester won the league with the wrap-around leg trick. It's clever and sometimes just about fair.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Not sure about fair.
But if the defender is stupid enough to push him he’s asking the ref to make a decision.
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Richarlison's normally pretty good tbf, rarely dives and does typically try his best to stay on his feet. Obviously didn't do that yesterday.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
How is deception "fair"?
It's cheating, plain and simple and until players are punished for it nothing will change.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
The reason it happens is the same reason we now have VAR. Players were getting fouled, trying to stay on their feet but losing possession and getting no reward because the ref refused to pull it back for the foul. So now they go down when there's contact because you get punished for not doing so. It's not cheating, anymore than you could argue a defender fouling someone in the box and getting away with it is cheating.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
And yet fans (like yourself) bitch like a god knows what when the "dive" doesnt get the pen you and your player want, because as you say VAR is there to stop it?
