Poppies and minutes silence

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Bit of a stooshie going on with various football fans forums in Scotland given there was only two games in The SPFL that observed a minutes silence this weekend passed.

My own team wore poppies on their shirt but there was no minutes silence, Ross County and St Johnstone have issued apologies for not doing anything and Hearts fans are generally disgusted at the lack of silence/wearing of poppies.

I know from the blanket coverage it receives from MoTD that English top flight football did have a minutes silence, so my question is this:

Should it be obligatory for professional football teams in The United Kingdom to have a minutes silence on Remembrance weekend, or should individual clubs have the be allowed to make their own choice?

Also, is anyone else fed up with the politicisation of Remembrance Sunday, by govt,football and TV?
 
I donate but don't normally wear a poppy. I did this morning for my stint in a charity shop.
The BBC have turned the whole thing into a Whitehall farce [anyone see Lady GaGa desperately trying to find somewhere for her poppy on Saturday night]

Hearts have a strong history with McRae's Battalion so I would expect them to do the right thing.

On occasions like this I am reminded of the old saying.
'May the lord save us from those who want to save us'.
 
I was at Selhurst Park on Saturday. They had a Forces guard of Honour with remembrance wreaths and the minutes silence was absolutely strictly observed by our fans as well as the visiting Everton supporters

Football fans can do the right thing when they want!
 
Yes clubs should observe a minutes silence and no, I am not fed up with the way it is shown. The more awareness there is, the better.
 
Don't believe it should be obligatory...

Just disappointed they choose not to join the rest wishing to show/indicate their support...

Would find it hard to criticise anyone wishing to show/indicate their support be they politicians, sportsmen or members of the media...
 
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I think its a good thing that sporting events do one before the game, It shouldn't be even something we question and its a shame that some clubs north of the border didn't bother.

Question for anyone playing yesterday did you stop at 11am for 2 mins, We did I was stood on the 10th fairway at 11am.
 
MegaSteve said:
My lad played yesterday morning [first time on a remembrance Sunday] and was pleased to be told two mins silence was to be observed at 11am and it duly was by all...
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Nice to hear that :thup:
 
Interesting replies,thank you.

My opinion? I'd want to join in with a minutes silence, but I wouldn't want it forced upon those who don't, for whatever reason.We've seen at football matches in the past up here Celtic fans refusing to acknowledge it and also Hearts fans refusing to do the same for The Pope.Recently we've seen soldiers at Ibrox signing sectarian songs whilst guests on the pitch and others doing nazi salutes in pictures published in the papers.Some people refuse to acknowledge Afghanistan and Iraq soldiers as the agenda behind them was miles away from the world wars.

Those men and women who died in the World Wars did so to protect democracy and the right of choice, but equally their service,bravery and life should be recognised.

Interesting that next year the government are going to 'celebrate' WWI...the start of the Great War...not the end, but the beginning...wtf?VE day,VJ day, absolutely, but the beginning of the war?Has it all been politicised to justify Afghanistan/Iraq?I don't think you were actually allowed to be on The BBC this weekend without a poppy, that's a dictatorship, specifically the opposite of what people died for.

Here's a quote from Harry Patch, the last person from the UK who was alive that served in the 1st World War;
"Politicians who took us to war should have been given the guns and told to settle their differences themselves, instead of organising nothing better than legalised mass murder"

Or how about Harry Leslie Smith, who are any of us to say his opinion is wrong?We're all sprats in the company of a giant.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/08/poppy-last-time-remembrance-harry-leslie-smith

I also see there was zealots in Westminster today jumping infront of cars who weren't observing the silence...they have totally missed the point of fighting for freedom.
 
I worked in the RAF for 22 years until this year and had tours in both Afghan and Iraq. Guys out there are also put their lives on the line to make other peoples lives a better place.

Anyone who doesn't observe the mins silence or questions the poppy just need to remember that they have the choice because millions put their lives on the line and still to this day people put their lives on the line to give people the freedom they are used too. People and even the government treat our Armed Forces like pieces of **** yet they still do their job to the best of their ability. When firemen go on strike it's military guys ( who are getting paid less ) covering their asses !!

We should be proud of our forces as they are the best in the world by a country mile. And we should all be proud of the work they do and have done in the past

I informed my playing partners yesterday that we would be observing a mins silence and 11 and we did on the 6th green. They all agreed it was the right thing to do
 
Lincoln Quaker said:
I think its a good thing that sporting events do one before the game, It shouldn't be even something we question and its a shame that some clubs north of the border didn't bother.

Question for anyone playing yesterday did you stop at 11am for 2 mins, We did I was stood on the 10th fairway at 11am.
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Not yesterday but I did today at 11am:thup:
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I worked in the RAF for 22 years until this year and had tours in both Afghan and Iraq. Guys out there are also put their lives on the line to make other peoples lives a better place.

Anyone who doesn't observe the mins silence or questions the poppy just need to remember that they have the choice because millions put their lives on the line and still to this day people put their lives on the line to give people the freedom they are used too. People and even the government treat our Armed Forces like pieces of **** yet they still do their job to the best of their ability. When firemen go on strike it's military guys ( who are getting paid less ) covering their asses !!

We should be proud of our forces as they are the best in the world by a country mile. And we should all be proud of the work they do and have done in the past

I informed my playing partners yesterday that we would be observing a mins silence and 11 and we did on the 6th green. They all agreed it was the right thing to do
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Can you see why people might have an issue with the Iraq aspect of it?That was effectively an illegal war, and whilst its politicians that make the choice to go to war and you lot do the dying, can you see why people don't want to 'endorse' it?

Also, do you think it's acceptable for people to choose not to stay silent, whatever their reasons might be?
 
Don't see the need for football matches to observe a minute silence unless they are playing at 11am on the 11th Nov or at 11am on Remembrance Sunday. This all seems to me to be more about football once again being pompous and self-important. I don't know how long this has been going on but I think it is relatively new and more about football's view of itself than remembrance.
 
Adi2Dassler said:
Can you see why people might have an issue with the Iraq aspect of it?That was effectively an illegal war, and whilst its politicians that make the choice to go to war and you lot do the dying, can you see why people don't want to 'endorse' it?

Also, do you think it's acceptable for people to choose not to stay silent, whatever their reasons might be?
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Nowhere did I say people should "endorse" anything.

And I don't think it's acceptable if someone can't stay silent to remember millions who put their lives on the line to allow them to live in a free country.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Don't see the need for football matches to observe a minute silence unless they are playing at 11am on the 11th Nov or at 11am on Remembrance Sunday. This all seems to me to be more about football once again being pompous and self-important. I don't know how long this has been going on but I think it is relatively new and more about football's view of itself than remembrance.
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A silence for Remembrance Sunday has been going on for decades at sporting events
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Nowhere did I say people should "endorse" anything.

And I don't think it's acceptable if someone can't stay silent to remember millions who put their lives on the line to allow them to live in a free country.
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Their silence would be endorsing the reasons for the illegal war...something very different to both WW's...is an opinion I've heard alot this weekend.

How far would you take it?Would you make it mandatory/Law to observe the silence?
 
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