Poppies and minutes silence

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Liverpoolphil said:
Have I missed something that went on during WW1 that your post covers ?
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British soldiers' involvement in places such as Aden, Northern Ireland, Malaya, Cyprus and others have all been called into question.

Like I said, I support Remembrance but it shouldn't be enforced on a single person.
 
Kellfire said:
British soldiers' involvement in places such as Aden, Northern Ireland, Malaya, Cyprus and others have all been called into question.

Like I said, I support Remembrance but it shouldn't be enforced on a single person.
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Soldiers get questioned about actions during every conflict.

But again it's missing the point of Remembrance Day.

When the country needed protecting they were there - when our freedom was at risk they were there and millions died protecting that freedom - that's where the respect comes in and it's those actions that IMO should be respected by us all.
 
Kellfire said:
British soldiers' involvement in places such as Aden, Northern Ireland, Malaya, Cyprus and others have all been called into question.

Like I said, I support Remembrance but it shouldn't be enforced on a single person.
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you could be about to throw open a big bag of worms here. You have just come up with 4 areas of conflict where governments requested assistance. I presume you think that we decide over a few beers in the NAAFI which country to pick on next.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Soldiers get questioned about actions during every conflict.

But again it's missing the point of Remembrance Day.

When the country needed protecting they were there - when our freedom was at risk they were there and millions died protecting that freedom - that's where the respect comes in and it's those actions that IMO should be respected by us all.
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They are respected for those actions but you're still failing to see that Remembrance Day isn't about freedom it's about those who died serving our armed forces. Not all who die serving our armed forces are worthy of respect or remembering, although the vast majority are. Some choose not to observe a blanket remembrance especially when the action itself isn't worthy or the actions of some individuals isn't worthy.
 
Old Skier said:
you could be about to throw open a big bag of worms here. You have just come up with 4 areas of conflict where governments requested assistance. I presume you think that we decide over a few beers in the NAAFI which country to pick on next.
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Why are you directing this at me? I've said I support the cause. I can also see why others don't. It's a painful stain on my own country's recent history.
 
Kellfire said:
They are respected for those actions but you're still failing to see that Remembrance Day isn't about freedom it's about those who died serving our armed forces. Not all who die serving our armed forces are worthy of respect or remembering, although the vast majority are. Some choose not to observe a blanket remembrance especially when the action itself isn't worthy or the actions of some individuals isn't worthy.
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Best not to judge the actions of a man in battle unless your there with him and can set them in the right context.
 
Old Skier said:
Best not to judge the actions of a man in battle unless your there with him and can set them in the right context.
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Best not to excuse terrible actions because the greater good (which is in itself debatable depending on your side in any conflict) is achieved.
 
Kellfire said:
They are respected for those actions but you're still failing to see that Remembrance Day isn't about freedom it's about those who died serving our armed forces. Not all who die serving our armed forces are worthy of respect or remembering, although the vast majority are. Some choose not to observe a blanket remembrance especially when the action itself isn't worthy or the actions of some individuals isn't worthy.
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And they died serving our country regardless of any politics people want to bring in and question

Serving Armed Forces are protecting us all and providing our freedom and others on a daily basis.

So yes I believe in a blanket respect and I will continue to show it.
 
Kellfire said:
Then you don't understand what these very men are fighting for.
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You will have to point out which very men you mean - as a person who has served 22 years and a family steeped in military history i have witnessed first hand the actions people do that earn the respect I believe they deserve.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Totally agree with that.
The Sunday Service has been demeaned and lost a lot of it's meaning over the last 10 years by people who do not have a clue what it is all about. And worst of all, people trying to seek commercial gain out of it.
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And agree with this also - with such as (or particularly) football making an 'event' out of it. Wrong - completely wrong.
 
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