Paris under attack

Doon frae Troon said:
That is my recollection as well.
Bush was out of control with a bloodthirsty USA population urging him to 'do something'.
I still think that an awful lot of Iraq2 was all about control of oil reserves.
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The only country that was in any way under threat from Saddam Hussain's Iraq was Israel (supergun etc), and the US is always very supportive of them. The other issue was oil, which the Iraqi regime was selling directly to France, rather than through the big American Oil Corporations. I would imagine that would be upsetting to an oil man like George W Bush. I don't know what hold he had over Tony Blair, but I can imagine some form of coercion taking place!
 
Not good reading but then not that surprising, I think any attack in the coming days or weeks, which with our threat level being at "severe" and as "highly likely", can't be attached to the decision to bomb into Syria, I'm confident they would commit atrocities over here anyway, but the lefties will obviously point the finger of blame at that decision.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35013221
 
Fish said:
Not good reading but then not that surprising, I think any attack in the coming days or weeks, which with our threat level being at "severe" and as "highly likely", can't be attached to the decision to bomb into Syria, I'm confident they would commit atrocities over here anyway, but the lefties will obviously point the finger of blame at that decision.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35013221
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Your correct mate, the alert states didn't change after the vote.
 
MegaSteve said:
But it didn't stop some tool, celebrating winning the vote, to declare "Britain is now a safer place"...
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every bomb that hits the oil that allows them to finance terror, every vehicle which is destroyed that stops them invading and growing, every bomb that pins them down so the Kurds can protect themselves and every bomb that takes out any training camps and terrorists of course makes not only the UK but any country they want to inflict atrocities in safer!

Nobody should be naive enough to think there aren't already weapons and cells over here already and as such we will unfortunately experience something, but the decision to bomb Syria has no bearing on that, they'd have done it anyway when the time was right, what bombing will hopefully do with targeted strikes is slow down, upset and starve some of the plans to spread their hatred and as such by definition, everywhere will be safer as a consequence, nobody has ever said it will stop it immediately!
 
Fish said:
every bomb that hits the oil that allows them to finance terror, every vehicle which is destroyed that stops them invading and growing, every bomb that pins them down so the Kurds can protect themselves and every bomb that takes out any training camps and terrorists of course makes not only the UK but any country they want to inflict atrocities in safer!

Nobody should be naive enough to think there aren't already weapons and cells over here already and as such we will unfortunately experience something, but the decision to bomb Syria has no bearing on that, they'd have done it anyway when the time was right, what bombing will hopefully do with targeted strikes is slow down, upset and starve some of the plans to spread their hatred and as such by definition, everywhere will be safer as a consequence, nobody has ever said it will stop it immediately!
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Every bomb, from the west, strengthens the platform the preachers of hate use to radicalise our young folk...
 
MegaSteve said:
Every bomb, from the west, strengthens the platform the preachers of hate use to radicalise our young folk...
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Or make them see they are not going to have it all their own way, and with their actions come consequences, it goes both ways.
 
MegaSteve said:
Every bomb, from the west, strengthens the platform the preachers of hate use to radicalise our young folk...
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and for every bomb that doesn't fall helps them grow and spread their murderous crusade as they do not recognise any borders and if you don't join or support them when they roll into town, your submitted to a horrendous death, so lets stay out of it shall we, they'll never reach our little island!?
 
Fish said:
and for every bomb that doesn't fall helps them grow and spread their murderous crusade as they do not recognise any borders and if you don't join or support them when they roll into town, your submitted to a horrendous death, so lets stay out of it shall we, they'll never reach our little island!?
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I have no issues with the bombs... Just the need of this little island of ours to always feel it has to take the lead... We should be following the lead of those nearer to the region not doing their 'dirty' work for them...
 
Interesting comment at the gig I was at last night. Apparently 120 people that had bought tickets for the O2 in Islington for Friday didn't attend. I can't believe they were all ill or suddenly had other engagements and so there is a definite shift in public perception of their own safety
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Interesting comment at the gig I was at last night. Apparently 120 people that had bought tickets for the O2 in Islington for Friday didn't attend. I can't believe they were all ill or suddenly had other engagements and so there is a definite shift in public perception of their own safety
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I was at Hammersmith for the Weller gig on Friday night. My row of 20odd seats had just me and my wife on it until another pair joined glad way through.

I was wondering whether that was post Paris nervousness or if they just saw the setlist....
 
MegaSteve said:
Took a walk through Green Park past Buck House and onto T Sq this morning and it was more than full of visitors/tourists...

Wouldn't expect anything else...
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To be fair, there were plenty of French and German fans at the gig last night and many nationalities in the Hilton Islington, including Americans, usually very nervous about travelling when there's any threat. It seems from speaking with Fish after, other bands had seen a drop in the last week of attendance vs acutal sales, especially in London
 
Not sure how to post links on here but Salah Abdeslam one of the suspects from the Paris attacks has been caught alive by the Belgian police!!
 
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