Interesting Drill TC, will be trying that tomorrow, apart from driver I think the wedges will feel more solid also and fly further with better contact.
Over the top / Out to In
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timchump
Q-School Graduate
yeh it helps with all clubs to be honest, just a really good drill :thup:
though personally i've found my driving has improved the most.
more consistent and longer
i think its because the drill encourages an inside path and a shallower attack, ideal for the big stick, whereas the over the top move leads to a choppy swing, steeper angle attack which you can get away on the shorter clubs to some extent.
though personally i've found my driving has improved the most.
more consistent and longer
i think its because the drill encourages an inside path and a shallower attack, ideal for the big stick, whereas the over the top move leads to a choppy swing, steeper angle attack which you can get away on the shorter clubs to some extent.
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timchump
Q-School Graduate
hi richard, i've made a conscious effort to get my swing more compact and controlled, i haven't really lost any distance just gained accuracy, i need it with the rough round burnham
bobmac
Major Champion
There's lots of Youtube cures out there to help you fix the out to in move.
The tricky part is to find the one that works for you.
Film yourself from down the line and watch what your hands do in the change of direction from the backswing to the downswing.
Do your hands drop straight down, do they move forward towards the ball or do they move back away from the ball.
Whichever drill you use that helps you drop the hands or move them back away from the ball is the one to stick with.
The tricky part is to find the one that works for you.
Film yourself from down the line and watch what your hands do in the change of direction from the backswing to the downswing.
Do your hands drop straight down, do they move forward towards the ball or do they move back away from the ball.
Whichever drill you use that helps you drop the hands or move them back away from the ball is the one to stick with.
Cheers Bob, I've never really thought of the hands moving away from the ball from the top of the swing, I can't really get a 'thought' around that, do you have a drill or swing thought that encourages dropping or moving the hands away?
bobmac
Major Champion
Its more of a feeling than actually doing it.
The normal out to in swing will go back on the inside and will then loop to the outside causing the pull/slice.
Think of it as a reverse loop.
Go back straighter then loop backwards not forward.
If you have an out to in loop, film it and watch it in slow motion BACKWARDS then try and copy it.
The normal out to in swing will go back on the inside and will then loop to the outside causing the pull/slice.
Think of it as a reverse loop.
Go back straighter then loop backwards not forward.
If you have an out to in loop, film it and watch it in slow motion BACKWARDS then try and copy it.
Thanks Bob, I'll need to get a video up one day, havent even seen my own swing apart from a vid lesson years ago and a lot was going on then.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
[video=youtube;T3WH0zsCCW0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3WH0zsCCW0[/video]
timchump
Q-School Graduate
I think it's a brilliant drill.
Lots of experts stock response to an over the top move is you need to start with the lower half of the body, but i think this drill goes one step further, letting the club fall away from you at the top also means your lower body starts moving out of the way automatically as there is nothing else for it to do, if that makes sense.
Where as just saying move the lower body to start leaves some confusion as of what to do with the top half
I've probably pushed this drill enough now
I'm very happy with where my swing is now thanks to this drill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWtdrMK39kE
Time to start focusing on my short game :fore:
Lots of experts stock response to an over the top move is you need to start with the lower half of the body, but i think this drill goes one step further, letting the club fall away from you at the top also means your lower body starts moving out of the way automatically as there is nothing else for it to do, if that makes sense.
Where as just saying move the lower body to start leaves some confusion as of what to do with the top half
I've probably pushed this drill enough now
I'm very happy with where my swing is now thanks to this drill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWtdrMK39kE
Time to start focusing on my short game :fore:
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bobmac
Major Champion
I'm very happy with where my swing is now thanks to this drill.
Agreed. Very good in the transition. But keep your eye on it because it has a habit of sneaking back if your not careful
Agreed. Very good in the transition. But keep your eye on it because it has a habit of sneaking back if your not careful
timchump
Q-School Graduate
You're a wise man Bob, it does exactly that especially after a full round, i think its because of the years of playing with an OTT move.
I plan to go to the range at least once a week to keep it in check, hopefully one day it will become natural
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
I'm very happy with where my swing is now thanks to this drill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWtdrMK39kE
Time to start focusing on my short game :fore:
Lots of good bits in that swing Tim, I'd still say that you could do with some weight shift to the left side so you can get a bit of shaft lean (lag), a bit more power into your hit (hit the ball with the big muscles not just the swinging of the arms), and to get your plane just a fraction lower on the downswing.... but for a 15 h/capper that is turning into a pretty good action :thup:
timchump
Q-School Graduate
hi james
yes my swing does feel like its lack power but to be honest i'm trying to tone back the aggresiveness of my weight shift
i had an issue with my right foot coming of the ground to early in the swing
if you have a look at my driver swing you'll see what i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HID_h36JriU
also my swing seems to not look quite so pretty when i get aggresive with it
i found by being toning it down i hardly lose any distance in the irons,
probably about 15 or so yards in the driver but im more consistent
i figure when this swing starts feeling more natural i can turn on the power again.
yes my swing does feel like its lack power but to be honest i'm trying to tone back the aggresiveness of my weight shift
i had an issue with my right foot coming of the ground to early in the swing
if you have a look at my driver swing you'll see what i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HID_h36JriU
also my swing seems to not look quite so pretty when i get aggresive with it
i found by being toning it down i hardly lose any distance in the irons,
probably about 15 or so yards in the driver but im more consistent
i figure when this swing starts feeling more natural i can turn on the power again.
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JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Looks great to me in that swing.... [click pic to enlarge...]
Watch this tour pro.... he's basically off the floor with BOTH feet at impact... (left heel comes up too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiPC2VAg15A
Watch this tour pro.... he's basically off the floor with BOTH feet at impact... (left heel comes up too)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiPC2VAg15A
timchump
Q-School Graduate
well if you say so, and i do like to give it a smash
my foot work doesn't look to bad compared to that guy's
virtuocity
Tour Winner
So, do the arms drop down, or just the club????
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
My method in the downswing is to point the butt end of the club along the extended ball to target line while keeping my left upper arm connected to my chest.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
As I understand it, the whole shebang. Hands, arms and club.
