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Because our medals aren't divisionalised when it comes to winners
Only one overall winner
Only one overall winner
Our Live Leader Board
- Thread starter SwingsitlikeHogan
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I can see their point then. Doesn't seem overly fair and not sure I'd like that on a regular basis. Our honours board events are winner takes all but other than that we have divisions. Makes it much fairer for the higher handicappers who are more likely to have the double bogey and cricket scores and so play themselves out of a single winner event.
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A lot of the higher handicappers win a great deal of medals
Not sure how it's not fair with the handicap system ? Also allows the winner a bit more of a prize fund as opposed to splitting it 3 ways between the divisions
Not sure how it's not fair with the handicap system ? Also allows the winner a bit more of a prize fund as opposed to splitting it 3 ways between the divisions
jchubs
Assistant Pro
Yep, last year we used this and since we have developed our own version designed for clubs... It's called GDScore and will hopefully be seen at a club near you soon! Take a peek here:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ziCfzSjZsa8
We have two events tomorrow, with the live leaderboards being shown on our Facebook and Twitter should anyone want to see what happens with a live leaderboard direct from an event...
Without a doubt, live scoring is the way forward for golf, showing a real time leaderboard to players on the course makes them feel like a tour pro, especially coming down the last few holes with when they are in the mix!
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
surely thats a matter of opinion. In mine, it distorts whats going on, gives the later players either an advantage or disadvantage depending on how you want to look at it, personally wouldnt want to know what others have done, just a chance to add un-needed pressure
jchubs
Assistant Pro
Fair comment, but live scoring can also be an aid.
Imagine you were standing on the 18th, in the lead of the event or one behind, you would potentially play the hole differently to either protect your score or go for it to make up the shot... Just like the tour pros will do...
I appreciate live scoring isn't for everyone, but once people have used it, they love it!
Imagine you were standing on the 18th, in the lead of the event or one behind, you would potentially play the hole differently to either protect your score or go for it to make up the shot... Just like the tour pros will do...
I appreciate live scoring isn't for everyone, but once people have used it, they love it!
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
I think very few amateurs can benefit from knowing they need to go for it, very very different for a pro knowing he needs to go for it imo.
As for that scenario, do you think it is fair on the earlier starters who dont have the option to know? Do you do a full draw for tee times (what if someone wants to play but needs an early or late tee time etc). As an eg, I currently tend to play in the last group or 2 in almost all medals (as i ask for as late as possible), if this was introduced at our club would it be fair for me to keep doing so? (or lead to me playing less comps as i refuse the early tee times?)
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c1973
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It's a decent enough idea, but I think I'm with fundy with regard to regular medals.
However I do think, it would make for a great one off weekend comp, ballot for the Saturday and players making the cut going out in order on the Sunday. Then the FCs at the back have earned any perceived advantage. Might add something special if it were a one off.
However I do think, it would make for a great one off weekend comp, ballot for the Saturday and players making the cut going out in order on the Sunday. Then the FCs at the back have earned any perceived advantage. Might add something special if it were a one off.
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So you will have people on tees etc looking at their phones to check out leaderboards ? Well that will help with the pace of play.
Can't see any reason why as amateurs we need to know current scores from other people
jchubs
Assistant Pro
I would disagree with that. How annoying can it be knowing that if you were one shot better off, you would have won the competition.. Therefore you may play the few holes differently. I agree, that for regular amateurs who can't consistently hit the shot they want (like all of us) the them 'going for it' may not come off... But when it does come off for them then the rush and feeling they get is immense.
The majority aspire to play shots like the pros, have the latest equipment to make them better, so why not have the 'pressure experience' like a top pro?
Players don't have to look at the leaderboard, it's their choice, so where you start in field is irrelevant I believe. On our events, we have guys and girls that like to know all the time (I would be one of them) and we have golfers that look on the last few holes to just see how they are going...and we have people that don't look at all until they have finished.. It's a choice they have.
The majority aspire to play shots like the pros, have the latest equipment to make them better, so why not have the 'pressure experience' like a top pro?
Players don't have to look at the leaderboard, it's their choice, so where you start in field is irrelevant I believe. On our events, we have guys and girls that like to know all the time (I would be one of them) and we have golfers that look on the last few holes to just see how they are going...and we have people that don't look at all until they have finished.. It's a choice they have.
jchubs
Assistant Pro
They are given units so not using their own phones.
People tend to look at them walking down the fairway, so pace of play is not affected.
They don't need to know, many people want to know...
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Who says Liverpoolphil and I never agree! This really would be the height of pretentiousness.
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I haven't witnessed anyone at our place wanting to know - they voted to have the leaderboard removed from the PSI
And all it takes is one person to keep constantly looking at them to slow play up.
Thankfully don't ever expect to see them introduced into the main stream
jchubs
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An event tried to offer me it but have no need to know the score
It is no different to GPS it's adding something else on top of that - can see it added to the PSR. People can end up checking the scoreboard and get deflated as someone gets a massive score and then just give up.
How many clubs do you know that employ a live scoreboard ?
We are amateurs not pros - the leaderboard is crucial to people who need to make a living out of the game.
jchubs
Assistant Pro
True, but why do people buy all the latest gear? Because the pros play it (or a version of it), and the the companies tell us we should have it to make us better and hit the ball further.. Like the pros.
I appreciate your opinion, but some people want to know, you may not, but why take it away from people who do?
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Deleted member 15344
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There is a big difference between equipment that make or help you hit the ball or grip on the floor etc as opposed to just knowing your score ? Amateurs struggle enough concentrating enough on their shots and their own game without them starting to worry about leaderboards etc - if anything knowing the scores etc could and I suspect would turn some into nervous wrecks and make them play a different game.
I haven't witnessed one club or heard of one club who has this during the regular comps
Is there the demand for it ? Well doesn't appear so unless you can tell me it has been introduced in multiple clubs ?
Seen it once at a celeb pro am - that's it
julsk10
Head Pro
Same as our place for midweek ball when there are only prizes for 1st-3rd. Category prizes at the weekend so doesn't matter as much then.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Quite impressive technology.
Great for Golf Days (the events, not the company).
Probably more hassle than it's worth for Medals etc.
Great for Golf Days (the events, not the company).
Probably more hassle than it's worth for Medals etc.
sawtooth
Tour Winner
It doesn't sound like you are using handicapmaster. I use HM and currently it is not possible to view the live leaderboard on the website as far as I know. Unless you mean immediately after the competition is closed the results are then published to your website? HM can do that but I guess not all handicap secretaries are online and publish the results to masterscoreboard from the course straightaway. I do most weeks unless I need to get home in a hurry!
The live leaderboard feature in HM displays the live scoring in the clubhouse ( we use it only for the club championships) and I can choose whether or not to allow players to enter their own score as they come in. This feature is handy because you don't need to man the desk so to speak which is useful as CC is a 36 hole competition and I will probably be out on the course myself.
Not to be confused with something like Vpar which is a live scoring system that is used in corporate golf days and some professional events also. I used Vpar at Sunningdale last year when I was scoring for Olazabal in the IFQ. Vpar , is when you take a terminal out on the course with you and you use it to record the score which then adjusts the leaderboard and other pdas real time. This way everyone on the course can see how everyone else is doing.
