Maninblack4612
Tour Winner
As Jensen would tell you, what you are doing now is performing a "two plane" swing, as described by Jim Hardy in his book "The Plane Truth". Jim's teaching says that there are two basic ways to swing. In the one plane swing, at the top, the arms & shoulders are on the same plane, as per Kuchar & Els. In a two plane swing the arms are on a much steeper plane, think of Bubba & Mickelson. Hardy says that the fundamentals of these swings are completely different, which is why a lot of the advice you read in magazines appears to conflict. In Hardy's view, the one plane swing needs more flexibility in the body but leads to more accuracy whereas the two plane swing is more suited to less fit individuals but gives less accurate results because the clubface opens & closes much more during the swing. This is the reason Bubba & Phil rarely hit it straight. Hardy's books are well worth a read - you'll never look at a pro again without asking yourself "is he one plane or two?"Chronic wrist roller and overswinger here
Had a lesson and the lad would give me the feeling of the takeaway and where I should end the backswing ... take home notes were practice one piece takeaway and the backswing keep it short and wide
However despite maintaining the takeaway easily I struggled massively trying to keep it short and wide, when videoing practice the right elbow would fly the left arm bend and overswing persisted no matter how short I tried to keep it... I knew the position I should be aiming to get to but could i hell find a way to get there by myself
Then by chance I watched a rotary swing video that was on my YouTube you might like this list ... It was backswing lesson with someone with similar problems as me. They spent a third of it talking about the takeaway maintaining that triangle then he said “once you’re there (hands past the right thigh) just elevate your armsâ€... BOOM it was like a eureka moment for me
It feels absolutely mental but it works I’ve checked on videos ... basically feels like if I was standing on a floor with a compass drawn on it I’m chucking the club in a north easterly direction ... the rotation of the body as I swing back gives the depth
my understanding of the golf swing was to swing it flat around my body i know people can play like this but it caused me no end of consistency of strike issues
Still struggling with full shots at the moment on the course as when swinging full and having targets to aim at old habits can quickly take ocet
but this feeling on shorter shots has me nipping pitches and chips like a tour pro
Tl:dr ... takeaway wasn’t the be all and end all to my problems