Doon frae Troon
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Split emotions................Ashamed to be British, proud to be Scots.
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Del_Boy
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Proud to be English
woofers
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Can’t wait to hear from Major, Heseltine and, for the first time in my life, Blair.
chrisd
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On this night of celebration I doubt anyone cares ???
spongebob59
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So it's Brexit fault or their position of not having a clear Brexit policy ?
anyway let's hope the country get a decent opposition now.
anyway let's hope the country get a decent opposition now.
Piece
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Great result for Labour. Now they can clear out their inadequate leaders and hopefully provide a decent opposition in the future.
Tashyboy
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Doon a serious question. Looks like being a good night for SNP. However I have spoken to a fair few Scotish down here and they have categorically said voting for SNP don't nessasarily mean a vote for independence. In essence the SNP don't have a viable opposition so there policies stick, but independence don't. Is that the case or what's your thoughts.
Wolf
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Problem is though if the poll is right a defeat of that magnitude will take a lot to come back from even with a clear out
Piece
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You are right, to make up this gap in time for the next election, it will be hard. But, the Tories have to get it right or the people will turn quickly.
Wolf
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Oh the Tories could have it all cocked up by January 31st ?
But Labour have to take this as a massive wake up call.
Beezerk
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I think it will be a pretty quick turnaround, this election is about Brexit, once that's sorted people will probably go back to more traditional voting patterns.
IMO of course
Tashyboy
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This for me will be an interesting side show to the forthcoming Brexit debacle. Boris pushing through his Brexit plans whilst Labour look for a new leader. Can see some massive in fighting within the Labour camp.
For me The years under Corbyn should be known as the "wilderness years". Labour and Corbyn have achieved nothing, not only that they have set Labour back 10 years. Corbyn being ousted as leader is a step in the right direction, however it is only a small step in the right direction. I hope to god Labour sorts itself out. Never has it been more true that a strong opposition makes a strong government. However at the moment we have a diabolical opposition and a diabolical Government.
spongebob59
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If you look back over the last couple of years at the infighting between the MP's and Momentum - think deselection etc, there's a lot of clearing out to do rightdown to local level. The whole structure is rotten.
Tashyboy
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Hobbit, educate me re Momentum, I started reading about them the other day on Wikipedia but ended up having to go out. What's the idea behind Momentum.
Swinglowandslow
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I keep hearing that the SNP say they have had a good night etc etc.
If this exit poll is correct, then it is clear , but maybe not to S NP, that whatever Sturgeon says, requests, demands, whatever, - Johnson can completely ignore her and whatever Ian Blackford might say in the House.
He does need to talk to her. She has no clout outside of Scotland. End of.
What Johnson could do, if he wished, is give her the referendum in a legally binding agreement that there must be another referendum after 5 years, if she wins the first and Scotland goes independent. So when they mess up, the people of Scotland will have a lifeline back to the Union. Now, that would be interesting?
If this exit poll is correct, then it is clear , but maybe not to S NP, that whatever Sturgeon says, requests, demands, whatever, - Johnson can completely ignore her and whatever Ian Blackford might say in the House.
He does need to talk to her. She has no clout outside of Scotland. End of.
What Johnson could do, if he wished, is give her the referendum in a legally binding agreement that there must be another referendum after 5 years, if she wins the first and Scotland goes independent. So when they mess up, the people of Scotland will have a lifeline back to the Union. Now, that would be interesting?
Piece
Tour Winner
Where now for Lib Dems? Took the gamble to go with stop Brexit message, not something they should have done imho. Perhaps they thought they could nab a chunk of the 48% of the remain vote. Sounds like the country said no to this. Is Jo the right leader?
woofers
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Andrew Neil is a bit up himself isn’t he?
fundy
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If the Exit polls are right, sounds like Ruth Davidson is going for a swim in Loch Ness 
Tashyboy
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Bloody Geordies gate crashing a good night.
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