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Oh No!! Not the 'I' Word again.
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bluewolf
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put the Gin down and relax SR. it's only a forum, not real life. Real life is what's happening out in the World right now. Now that's something to get upset about.
I suppose, its what's left after those that have decided to leave the country, although I'd expect you to know or at least deduce that!
No its not, my dinners late, that's just not on :angry:
bluewolf
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You could miss a meal or 2!!
Foxholer
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Immigration in minus immigration out (emigration).
If more emigrated than immigrated, then it would be 'net emigration'.
londonlewis
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that was hardly a personal attack. I haven't called you any names, been rude or offensive. I've simply tried to explain that you are all opinion and no substance.
Dont think ive ever heard the term 'armchair socialist' before.
In terms of debating the issue, you don't actually do any debating at all. Any time you are asked for facts you say 'go find them yourself', which basically means you don't have any, don't know any and can't be bothered to look for any.
londonlewis
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Sounds like he is fleeing from persecution and may seek asylum in another forum.
How ironic.
Tashyboy
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Well socket, if you do decide to go I for one will Be gutted. having said that. Even if London Lewis said the same, Liverpool phil, Louise or anyone else on here I would say the same. The point is of these forums is you say your piece and that's it. Some will and some won't agree with you. That's there loss or gain. Sometimes you just have to sow a seed.
What some folk on here have to realise is that everyone has different life experiences which will determine an individual's opinions. Whether it is a fact or not, all it is, is an opinion.
me I have an NVQ in having splinters in me butt from sitting on the fence. It enables me to see both sides of a story.
get smashed for the weekend and come back on Monday.
See you me man.
FairwayDodger
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Must admit, I don't agree with very many of your opinions but am sorry to read this. I know I've given you a gentle ribbing on a couple of posts but it was very tongue in cheek with no offence intended. Not that I think those posts are what has annoyed you.
Before reading this, I was going to post something on this thread and I'm going to write it anyway, it's based on your previous postings and is not influenced by this one....
There are strong and diverse opinions on the issue expressed on this thread. Regardless of whether you agree with SocketRocket or not, he argues his case well and consistently and is not without compassion. From my reading of it, he clearly differentiates between economic migrants and refugees and advocates a different approach for each. It's an emotive topic for debate and too easy to allow concern over the unfolding human tragedy to cloud the subtler points of a complex issue....
I hope that's fair.... and..... don't go!
PhilTheFragger
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Can we not turn this thread into a "Don't go Socket fest" it might just be another fit of pique flounce,(There have been a few notables in the past, some more than once ) but lets get this thread back on track
we can open a book of condolence in OOB if you like
we can open a book of condolence in OOB if you like
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Old Skier
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PhilTheFragger
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JustOne
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Ah ok, I thought immigration minus emigration would give net migration (immigration and emigration being the act of coming/going)
Wasn't sure what SR meant about 'net immigration'.
About to read the entire thread but FWIW I think we should let them ALL in.
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JustOne
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OMG what a garbage thread - you should all (apart from DfT) be ashamed of yourselves, anyone would think you'd all put your lives on the line to save your families from it's own government!! when in reality your greatest hardship is having to see someone wearing jeans in the clubhouse.
We should take them all. Britain (between us) has plenty of space.... Scotland alone could house a 'new London' (1,500sqKm) of 8.6million people and still have 76,500sqKm available to it's meagre 5.6million current residents.
Spreading several million people across the entire Country would hardly be noticed, we are going to need better infrastructure and more health/education services REGARDLESS of what happens, we are a growing nation.
HOWEVER I think that people who come here should be supported by the state for 1yr and that means CHEAP accommodation and food vouchers (I'd accept that if I was fleeing my own Country) and have to work 20hrs/week within the community (if able to do so). IF any money is paid it certainly wouldn't be enough to have Sky TV!!!!!!!
I'd also like to see a nation wide clamp down on religion.... NO MORE religious buildings for ANY religion. We have the ones that we have and that's it!! We need to be a nation who live together not one who looks over it's shoulder at communities within communities.
I'd be quite happy if 10,000 immigrants came to live in my town. They are going to need services that would probably create a lot of jobs in the area. Shops, dentists, another school, doctors etc etc.
And whilst I'm on my 5 minute soapbox I'd like to see the government change it's building policy so that for every 2/3/4/5 bedroom house built there are 50 one bedroom flats built, THAT is the only way we are going to be able to house our OWN children in the future, let alone immigrants.
JustOne
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and as a footnote to those 'worried' about numbers....
So next week the entire population of France, Italy, Germany and Spain (for example) could move to the UK if they wanted.... only some 250,000,000 people
So next week the entire population of France, Italy, Germany and Spain (for example) could move to the UK if they wanted.... only some 250,000,000 people
Foxholer
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and as a footnote to those 'worried' about numbers....
So next week the entire population of France, Italy, Germany and Spain (for example) could move to the UK if they wanted.... only some 250,000,000 people
You omitted the Bulgarians and Romanians - who became EU members in 2007, but whose rights to move and work were restricted for the first 7 years.
It would. Just saved SR 1 word and cost you and me several.
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Old Skier
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His argument is also flawed as there is no thought put towards infrastructure. We may have acres of room for everyone but as there are not the houses, schools doctors, nurses and teachers let alone a road system to cope with the present inhabitants how are we going to manage any influx of immigrants or refugees.
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c1973
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Without an emotionally detached, considered, reasoned debate based around factual, statistically correct data then (imo) our infrastructure couldn't cope with taking in 'all' of them.
Plans would need to be in place and executed in order to provide these services for any influx, let alone maintain the current level for our current citizens.
And when we have a PM, seemingly, basing his policy around a photograph in a newspaper, then I'd say it's fair to assume that that debate is not going to take place.
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