Noisy Neighbour?

A serious suggestion which MAY help - just stop answering the door when they come round to complain and ignore them if they try and complain over the fence.

They would then have 3 options:

1) Escalate their complaints to the appropriate authorities. If it turned out you were creating a noise nuisance you would be forced to mend your ways. If not they have nothing to complain about, case closed.
2) Wind their neck in and stop complaining.
3) Continue to knock on your door or snipe across the fence but be ignored.
 
A serious suggestion which MAY help - just stop answering the door when they come round to complain and ignore them if they try and complain over the fence.

They would then have 3 options:

1) Escalate their complaints to the appropriate authorities. If it turned out you were creating a noise nuisance you would be forced to mend your ways. If not they have nothing to complain about, case closed.
2) Wind their neck in and stop complaining.
3) Continue to knock on your door or snipe across the fence but be ignored.

This - I can't see them when they come to the door as they are too wee.

We ignore them when over the fence stuff comes in - my wife fumes...

They escalated to the local council a few years back and we had something through that I ignored. I can't even remember what the council was asking me to do - keep a diary of when we made any noise or something impractical like that.

Sure as hell we aren't moving at the moment - though we will do in maybe 3-4yrs time. Their place is probably worth as much as their total life earnings and they will own it outright - so why, my wife asks, don't they move if they hate us so much. I know why - they are in their 80s.

I think the real issue is that their 50+ yr old son still lives with them and it is not that long ago that their grandsons moved out. They may well feel that they were not able to enjoy the early days of their retirement because of their family being a millstone around their neck. And now even though their grandsons have gone - their son is still with them - and they are now somewhat infirm and unable to 'do stuff' they might have 15-20yrs ago - we get their resentment in the neck.
 
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It all depends how loud you play your music for me.

Our neighbours used to play music loud enough so I could hear it over my tv at night. That imo is out of order.
 
they are complaining for complainings sake, there is probably no other focus in their lives as why on mother earth would you complain about 'plate handling' and door closing.

I had a ground floor neighbour who would hang out his window half naked and stare at anyone passing by menacingly, and the guy below me played music loud till all hours and had the occasional bloodied fight on the landing, while the Ozzy bird above flooded my flat 3 times as she went on benders and left taps running.......THESE are bad neighbours and it took 'drastic' action to sort 2 out.

SHL, there really is only one way to deal with these people without it escalating as you are clearly just living a normal life and they are being unreasonable, ignore them, dont argue, dont agree, dont retaliate, just ignore and carry on your normal living and they will either desist or move away

Which is indeed what we are trying to do.

Not only did we forgo our extension - we stopped my son having mates round as they were too 'messy/dodgy' - and they were too much at risk of the neighbours calling the police and my lad and his mates getting done. Also my daughter wouldn't have friends round because they were so horrible to her when she did (they actually used to moan about them and friends having trampoline fun squealing etc when they were 8-10yr olds).

AAAAND - in 17yrs in this house we have had friends (i.e. more than 4) round no more than five times. Parties - yer having a laugh - a great round ZERO in 17 yrs.
 
It all depends how loud you play your music for me.

Our neighbours used to play music loud enough so I could hear it over my tv at night. That imo is out of order.

Fair enough - but let's say my music IS loud for a while - how long is unreasonable - 2mins - 10mins - 30mins - 2hrs? And at what times of the day.

It's now near 5pm and I'm thinking of putting music on. Can I have it quite loud at the moment for half an hour? Do you dare me :)
 
Fair enough - but let's say my music IS loud for a while - how long is unreasonable - 2mins - 10mins - 30mins - 2hrs? And at what times of the day.

It's now near 5pm and I'm thinking of putting music on. Can I have it quite loud at the moment for half an hour? Do you dare me :)

If I was at home now watching the chase and the neighbours banged the music on so loud it interrupts my viewing I would be round within 10 mins. :thup:
 
To be honest SLH they've got you just where they want you. They complain and you accede to whatever they say. Don't build an extension, don't let the kids have friends round nor you for that matter, you worry about their next complaint! Look mate, they complain all the time because you give in to them, they are bullies, old bullies but bullies nevertheless.

Isn't it time that you lived for you and your family, tell them where to go, be reasonable in what you do, but, stop giving in to every tap at the door. I guarantee that once you've told them firmly where to go a couple of times they won't bang on the door again!

The only thing is to be fair and reasonable ie don't crank up the music just to annoy them, but, as I say, they are bullying you and you're letting them!
 
To be honest SLH they've got you just where they want you. They complain and you accede to whatever they say. Don't build an extension, don't let the kids have friends round nor you for that matter, you worry about their next complaint! Look mate, they complain all the time because you give in to them, they are bullies, old bullies but bullies nevertheless.

Isn't it time that you lived for you and your family, tell them where to go, be reasonable in what you do, but, stop giving in to every tap at the door. I guarantee that once you've told them firmly where to go a couple of times they won't bang on the door again!

The only thing is to be fair and reasonable ie don't crank up the music just to annoy them, but, as I say, they are bullying you and you're letting them!

You are of course quite right. And so when moaned at yesterday I said to Mrs Grumpy Neighbour that I accept that she might find the music a bit loud - but made the point that I have the right to play my music at a volume of my choice at some point during the day - and if it is not 7:20pm then it might be 3pm or 4pm in the afternoon. That did rather shut her up - I don't think she liked me answering back in that way.

And we are going to replace the fence between us with a 6ft high panelled fence - whatever they think. And we will plant whatever we like in our garden regardless of whether they like the shrub or not or whetehr they think it kills something their side of the boundary (excepting such as uncontained bamboo).

I might even say we're planning to get a dog; or we are planning to move and rent to students.
 
The next time you open the door and they are standing there, just close it in their face without even listening to their complaint. Not slam it, just don't say a word and clamly and slowly close the door.
 
You fancy a house swap for a fortnight?

I play Piano (a real one, not a digital), my m8 plays the Bagpipes and my 11 year old daughter has a 12ft trampoline. Oh, and I have 2 dogs!!

They'll throw a street party for you when you get back :D
 
You fancy a house swap for a fortnight?

I play Piano (a real one, not a digital), my m8 plays the Bagpipes and my 11 year old daughter has a 12ft trampoline. Oh, and I have 2 dogs!!

They'll throw a street party for you when you get back :D


Can I come too, I play boogie piano (28 h/cap standard) on my keyboard
 
You are of course quite right. And so when moaned at yesterday I said to Mrs Grumpy Neighbour that I accept that she might find the music a bit loud - but made the point that I have the right to play my music at a volume of my choice at some point during the day - and if it is not 7:20pm then it might be 3pm or 4pm in the afternoon. That did rather shut her up - I don't think she liked me answering back in that way.

And we are going to replace the fence between us with a 6ft high panelled fence - whatever they think. And we will plant whatever we like in our garden regardless of whether they like the shrub or not or whetehr they think it kills something their side of the boundary (excepting such as uncontained bamboo).

I might even say we're planning to get a dog; or we are planning to move and rent to students.

I wouldn't go that way personally.

You've called her bluff this time, if either knock again just say that you've had enough of their sheer pettiness and tell them to go away and leave you and your family alone, they not welcome on your property and you will forcibly remove them if they trespass onto it again.

I'm sure that they will go down the Council/police route at some stage but if they complain unfairly they will be seen through!

I would certainly do the fence etc, it was the veiled threats I would leave out
 
I'm finding this thread quite sad now- for 17 years you have let 2 very old bullies dictate, yes dictate how you live your life and how your family and friends live. It should have been nipped in the bud when it started, that's not a healthy environment and one of you should have moved or reached an 'understanding'
 
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