No longer required to mark a balls position for free relief!

[clubchamp98]

Especially if the towel is attached to the golf bag 10 feet away

Exactly .
I just can’t see any reason you shouldn’t mark it , even for your own reference.
As you run the risk of someone saying that’s not in the allowed area .
What do you do then as you are guessing , or do you put it where he lets you.?

 

[clubchamp98]

Because it's nothing to do with your fellow competitors and I would tell them to mind their own business.

Yes it is they have a duty to the rest of the field to make sure all scores are right.

 

[clubchamp98]

Yes that's fine, I am hearing from some I should always mark my ball, not just preferred lies, just pointing out the folly of that belief .
And I already see many lcp without marking,this change just legitimizes what was already happening.

Yes I see it at my club .but I have seen guys questioned for taking liberties.
That’s why I mark just to take that out of the question.

 

[rulefan]

The old D 33-7/9 put a clear obligation on fellow competitors to advise the player, his marker or the committee of a rules breach, with a potential for DQing the FC.
I can't find an equivalent in 2109.

 

[rulefan]

I'm not sure what you mean by policing but my understanding is that it includes ensuring fairness and legality.
If you see it and believe it is not being recorded, you must advise someone of it.

 

[oltimer]

No, you have the duty mark my card but beyond that Nothing else. If you see some cheating then do something about it . But its not your role to referee and ensure others are following the correct procedure .

I always thought that it was the responsibility of every player that he ensures those he plays alongside abided by the rules, if some are not doing this then there is a good chance the competition will be unfair.

 

[duncan mackie]

The old D 33-7/9 put a clear obligation on fellow competitors to advise the player, his marker or the committee of a rules breach, with a potential for DQing the FC.
I can't find an equivalent in 2109.

20.1 c (2)

It's clearly embedded in the rules themselves rather than interpretations, including the penalty of DQ for players failing in their wider responsibilities.

 

[rosecott]

Just curious, where did the posts from robinthehood disappear to?

 

[rulefan]

20.1 c (2)

It's clearly embedded in the rules themselves rather than interpretations, including the penalty of DQ for players failing in their wider responsibilities.

Thanks. I found it just after I posted but didn't have the opportunity to edit.

But just in case robinthehood comes back

(2) Players Should Protect Other Players in the Competition. To protect the interests of all other players:

• If a player knows or believes that another player has breached or might have breached the Rules and that the other player does not recognize or is ignoring this, the player should tell the other player, the player’s marker, a referee or the Committee.
• This should be done promptly after the player becomes aware of the issue, and no later than before the other player returns his or her scorecard unless it is not possible to do so.

If the player fails to do so, the Committee may disqualify the player under Rule 1.2a if it decides that this was serious misconduct contrary to the spirit of the game.

 

[clubchamp98]

Thanks. I found it just after I posted but didn't have the opportunity to edit.

But just in case robinthehood comes back

(2) Players Should Protect Other Players in the Competition. To protect the interests of all other players:

• If a player knows or believes that another player has breached or might have breached the Rules and that the other player does not recognize or is ignoring this, the player should tell the other player, the player’s marker, a referee or the Committee.
• This should be done promptly after the player becomes aware of the issue, and no later than before the other player returns his or her scorecard unless it is not possible to do so.

If the player fails to do so, the Committee may disqualify the player under Rule 1.2a if it decides that this was serious misconduct contrary to the spirit of the game.

So not marking your ball and replacing it wrongly will end up with the committee if you and a pp disagree .
That’s why I mark mine.!!
Think this is basics and is a bad omission in the rules, how hard is it to mark your ball.
If it’s impractical or dangerous that’s different but on fairway for preffered lie ?

 

[rulie]

So not marking your ball and replacing it wrongly will end up with the committee if you and a pp disagree .
That’s why I mark mine.!!
Think this is basics and is a bad omission in the rules, how hard is it to mark your ball.
If it’s impractical or dangerous that’s different but on fairway for preffered lie ?

Typically, if it's a "he said - she said" situation, the Committee will collect all the facts/evidence to make a decision. If it's not clear either way, the Committee should rule in favour of the player whose ball is involved.