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nick faldo

Nothing like speaking pants to bend the story to suit your needs.

It was against Ireland, Des Smyth if my memory is not mistaken. I'll also sure he came back out the next day and LOST.

Ireland went onto win with Ronan Rafferty stating something along the lines that they deserved to win it and Smyth was a hero.

Stick to facts.


thats why i said 'i couldnt remember' i never stated it as FACT.

okay i had the opposition wrong and the result,but i was merely stating that it happened and answering a previous posters question about the 'faldo dunhil cup scottish fans ' controversy??...
is that all right with you??
sorry for speaking from memory and not checking every detail out!!!!!


infact the true details were discussed bt faldo in one of his books[although for the nitpickers out there im not 100% sure which one!!]

"The 1988 Dunhill Cup at St. Andrews came down to Britain's Nick Faldo against Ireland's Des Smyth. As Smyth hit his approach shot to the 18th green, a fine mist crept in from the North Sea. With 80 yards left, Faldo refused to play until he could see the bottom of the flag. So what if 5,000 fans anxiously watched? He wouldn't budge. Nearly 30 minutes passed, but the fog remained, and the match was postponed due to darkness. For the first time in his life Faldo walked off a golf course to the sound of boos. He didn't care. "I know I was right," he said after losing the match the next morning. "I don't care what anybody thinks."
 
Good old Nick,the mans about as popular as a fart in a space suit.I guess theres more to being likeable than winning a few majors.How many times has he been married ?
 
What does Monty have to do with my views on Faldo ? Ahhhhhhhhhhhh maybe you think i like Monty because he's my countryman,and dislike Faldo because he isn't ? A plum is a plum no matter where there born.
I only asked because you seemed to be inferring that Faldo had been married three times because people didn't like him. The number of times he has been married has no bearing on his results as a player. The best player to come out of England. I still like the guy
 
Good old Nick,the mans about as popular as a fart in a space suit.I guess theres more to being likeable than winning a few majors.How many times has he been married ?
Obviously popular with you then! However, to dismiss him as generally unpopular just because you don't care for him is both presumptuous & wrong.Just look at the number of posts in his favour.
Last time you asked me what his & other's drinking habits had to do with it. Obviously as much as his marital history I would suggest.
 
infact one of the reasons i got the match result wrong about the faldo/dunhill cup 'finished the next day' match is because i was getting confused with another 'finished the next day' match involving faldo from the ryder cup in 1993.....here it is...

The pattern for the morning play had been set by Faldo as he and Montgomerie completed their unfinished business against Couples and Azinger. All square with one hole to complete, no player envied the task that was being asked of them. In the normal context of a round, the 18th hole at The Belfry is among the most intimidating in British golf .
How much more difficult the task, then, when it was the first hole of the day, it was 8am and its importance could hardly be exaggerated. For the Americans, there was the chance to get a share from the second series of matches that their play from the first day barely warranted for the home side, the opportunity to extend the one-point advantage.
Faldo's birdie on the 17th in the shadows of the previous evening had given Europe the honour, and while Montgomerie pushed his drive the Englishman's response was perfect. Couples drove into the stretch of water that appears to haunt the Americans. But Azinger followed Faldo's flightpath, so two of the best players in the world would decide this match.
Faldo could only find the first of the three tiers on the enormous final green and the flag was located in the middle one. Azinger's approach finished 20 feet away. And so Faldo's first putt of the day was 50 feet, uphill and up a tier. He left it 15 feet short. America had now two chances to win, but Azinger's effort shaved the right edge.
Would you have wanted anyone else to have taken this 15-foot putt than Faldo, knowing that the momentum would swing either for Europe or the visitors, depending on whether it went in or not? Of course not. He holed, American hearts sank and the cheers were heard all over the Midlands. Faldo's legs wobbled, as they did on the final green last year at Muirfield when he won The Open.

Of course azinger and faldo would go on to have a classic grudge singles match on the final day that was eventually halved despite faldos 6 iron hole in one that davis love reckoned did the 'home' side more harm than good.[constantino rocca had to back off his drive on 18 because of the huge roar for faldos ace and went on to completely choke the hole].
but for me the most disgusting line about the 1993 ryder cup came from complete moron paul azinger who said at the 1995 ryder cup whilst commentating for NBC on nick faldo..
"i had cancer and he still couldnt beat me"!!
 
Feck me, it looks like a serious amount of people on this forum have synchronised their menstrual cycles. I've never seen as much whiny "I don't like" prattle in my life. How many threads this weekend have involved moaning. Get a grip. It's been a beautiful winters day. Enjoy it
 
Obviously popular with you then! However, to dismiss him as generally unpopular just because you don't care for him is both presumptuous & wrong.Just look at the number of posts in his favour.
Last time you asked me what his & other's drinking habits had to do with it. Obviously as much as his marital history I would suggest.

I don't like the man,and make no secret of it.Great golfer,but certainly not a person i'd like to share a pint with.I did read a book once,where the author continually praised him and his acheivements...................oops just realised it was his autobiography.
 
actually pound for pound i think faldo was englands greatest sportsman of the 20th century!.
i dont really care if he is/was a nice guy or not.he was a british golfer who actually won multiple majors .
 
There can be no doubting Faldo's ability as a player or competitor or his single minded approach to the game. He was a particular master of the long iron game, part of the game which is now more or less gone.

There have been a number of incidents in his career, starting with his complaint against Sandy Lyle modifying his putter at an event in Africa in the 70s; his Ryder Cup 'partnership' with David Gilford; falling out with various big names in the game; his 'heart of my bottom' remark at the 1993 Open history speech etc etc. Taking these and others together, they suggest he is a 'difficult' character at times. He always seemed to want to be well respected rather than well liked.

I met Faldo at a Corporate event at the WGC event at The Grove in 2006. He played a hole with every group, and I sat beside him at lunch. He was perfectly charming then, although I think a certain prickliness was apparent.

I later had some more (tangential) dealings with him, in relation to my former collection of Scotty Cameron putters (see post 28 here: http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?34784-Scotty-Cameron-Putters-Why-so-popular/page3) formerly owned by Faldo. The whole tale is a fascinating story which I will tell another day, but let's just say that a prolonged interaction with his 'people', which is still ongoing, although I have been assured Sir Nick himself was fully aware and involved, has not yet changed my opinion about him from the commonly held one to a warmer one.
 
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