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Next England manager?

Southgate did pretty well during his early term at Boro but some behind the scenes structural issues let him down. I stiil think he's a good manager. Not sure if he's top international class yet but you won't find out without trying him. Pullis is pretty good too, and if anything is maturing into quite a package. Eddie Howe... no, he's not there yet.

After that its trot out the same old same old. Do you give it to big Sam? Not for me. Pity Terry Venables is 73, and not liked by the establishment - cracking manager, evidenced in his later years by bailing out Robson at the Boro when they were nailed on to go down. 'arry, I wouldn't buy a used car off him.
 
Didn't Beckenbauer and Klinnsman get success at international level with very little or no club management experience, maybe it is time for England to consider all options.
 
Whoever the players you've got they still need managing and preparing properly.

Beckenbauer and Klinsmann were both ex-players who had one major tournaments and were massive names in German football when they took the manager's job. So their stature would have brought instant respect from the players for what they had achieved.

Who do England have with that sort of stature and commanding that sort of respect?
 
Beckenbauer and Klinsmann were both ex-players who had one major tournaments and were massive names in German football when they took the manager's job. So their stature would have brought instant respect from the players for what they had achieved.

Who do England have with that sort of stature and commanding that sort of respect?
Southgate 😳
 
Beckenbauer and Klinsmann were both ex-players who had one major tournaments and were massive names in German football when they took the manager's job. So their stature would have brought instant respect from the players for what they had achieved.

Who do England have with that sort of stature and commanding that sort of respect?
Just saying we should consider all options, maybe it's a foreigner or an ex-player or a joint effort rather than a single appt or poach a current manager from a PL club.

To me they'll go safe and appt Southgate, maybe if it is him they appoint someone else to mentor.
 
Beckenbauer and Klinsmann were both ex-players who had one major tournaments and were massive names in German football when they took the manager's job. So their stature would have brought instant respect from the players for what they had achieved.
They also had the backroom staff that made the team work well. Beckenbauer had Bertie Vogts who won as manager in 1996, Klinsmann had Loew who won in 2014.
Bertie Vogts is the driving force behind the German youth academy who is now producing the Ozil and Khedira generation. He wasn't that successful as Bertie McVogts when managing Scotland.

However, Germany also had 'failure' with that approach when Rudi Voeller was in charge. Rudi wasn't 1st choice, he jumped in when Christoph Daum was supposed to manage the team but his drug past caught up with him.
 
They also had the backroom staff that made the team work well. Beckenbauer had Bertie Vogts who won as manager in 1996, Klinsmann had Loew who won in 2014.
Bertie Vogts is the driving force behind the German youth academy who is now producing the Ozil and Khedira generation. He wasn't that successful as Bertie McVogts when managing Scotland.

However, Germany also had 'failure' with that approach when Rudi Voeller was in charge. Rudi wasn't 1st choice, he jumped in when Christoph Daum was supposed to manage the team but his drug past caught up with him.

Was that the academy that came about after the root and branch changes post Euro 2000? Ultimately that is what England need to do but admitting that the English system isnt producing quality players seems a bridge too far.
 
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