New national lockdown from this Wed?

Fade and Die said:
Pointless exercise. Working in Westminster and Battersea today, traffic terrible, hoards of kids waiting at bus stops, long queues outside every coffee shop and food shop, it was actually hard to see any shops that were closed. I even saw a dog groomers/doggy day care open! providing "essential" dog sitting services I suppose!
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Dog sitting services far more essential than takeaway beer from a pub, general construction etc imho
 
fundy said:
Dog sitting services far more essential than takeaway beer from a pub, general construction etc imho
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I think there are enough loopholes for everyone to carry on as normal really. (apart from the leisure industry) Government wants to have its cake and eat it. "Everyone needs to stop at home to halt the Virus but also everyone carry on going to work, spending money and paying taxes." :unsure:
 
Fade and Die said:
I think there are enough loopholes for everyone to carry on as normal really. (apart from the leisure industry) Government wants to have its cake and eat it. "Everyone needs to stop at home to halt the Virus but also everyone carry on going to work, spending money and paying taxes." :unsure:
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depends on your choices to some extent but yes its a glorified hospitality lockdown for sure. assuming the science proves thats where the spread is then thats fine, however, if youve not shutdown where the majority of new cases are coming from then its very different situation

one things for sure, guidance is utterly pointless for a large proportion currently and rules need to black or white not grey if they want to have any chance of enforcing them
 
fundy said:
depends on your choices to some extent but yes its a glorified hospitality lockdown for sure. assuming the science proves thats where the spread is then thats fine, however, if youve not shutdown where the majority of new cases are coming from then its very different situation

one things for sure, guidance is utterly pointless for a large proportion currently and rules need to black or white not grey if they want to have any chance of enforcing them
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Agree, It all seems a bit half hearted this time.
 
Tashyboy said:
could anyone remind me when the lockdown starts coz Ave dropped kids off at school popped round to parents on the way home to see there ok and looking at the roads, nowts Changed.
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?? you sound like the women on the beach during the last lockdown,moaning about everyone else being on the beach in lockdown ?‍♂️
 
Old Skier said:
Who’s stupid idea was it to keep DIY stores open
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A garden centre I went to recently up Bagshot way you could hardly get into it as the whole entrance hall/atrium was crammed with Christmas stuff and folks were going in, stopping and browsing - and trying to get through was a mare as the staff were not moving folks on - well they wouldn't as they idea was that you saw saw immediately you went in and were enticed to buy. Not going near it during lockdown...and after if I can help it.
 
No offence but the rush hour is always kids drop off in the morning, why would that change today, all kids still going in. Additionally those working from home and parked outside their houses instead of travelling to work within the school drop off area makes it worse but by 9.30am it was a lot quieter.
 
The schools being back has defo changed people's attuide this lockdown.

Last time everyone was very laid back, hoping the world would stay this way. Nice to everyone etc

Now I'm sitting on our bed with the twins and it's bin day

All I can hear is car horns out the window as people try and go round the bin lorry

Worlds still in a rush
 
Pin-seeker said:
?? you sound like the women on the beach during the last lockdown,moaning about everyone else being on the beach in lockdown ?‍♂️
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Am sure I could of let my grandkids aged 5 and 7 walk the seven miles to school. Then left two folk aged 84 and 82 for another day. Another positive forum post. ?
 
Is it not the case that if people dont take the England lockdown seriously now it will almost for certain be extended beyond 2nd Dec to even Christmas despite what PM says - he'll get round the 2nd Dec deadline by making Tier 3 the same as current lockdown and placing everywhere in that Tier 3 but claim lockdown ended on 2nd. Given the furlough extension to spring seems Govt are already thinking that way.
After 2nd Dec majority (rather than current minority) disobedience will follow no matter how many are dying daily, people will take their chances.
 
maxfli65 said:
Is it not the case that if people dont take the England lockdown seriously now it will almost for certain be extended beyond 2nd Dec to even Christmas despite what PM says - he'll get round the 2nd Dec deadline by making Tier 3 the same as current lockdown and placing everywhere in that Tier 3 but claim lockdown ended on 2nd. Given the furlough extension to spring seems Govt are already thinking that way.
After 2nd Dec majority (rather than current minority) disobedience will follow no matter how many are dying daily, people will take their chances.
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yup but as already been decided by some, everyone is taking the lockdown seriously.
That aside I don’t get the “ we’re coming out of the semi lockdown on Dec 2nd”. What happens if there is more deaths on Dec 2nd than there was yesterday. Seems a very bold statement indeed.
 
maxfli65 said:
Is it not the case that if people dont take the England lockdown seriously now it will almost for certain be extended beyond 2nd Dec to even Christmas despite what PM says - he'll get round the 2nd Dec deadline by making Tier 3 the same as current lockdown and placing everywhere in that Tier 3 but claim lockdown ended on 2nd. Given the furlough extension to spring seems Govt are already thinking that way.
After 2nd Dec majority (rather than current minority) disobedience will follow no matter how many are dying daily, people will take their chances.
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We came out of Lockdown back in June/July. The furlough scheme carried on as not everyone was able to go back to work.
Same applies here.
We exit Lockdown 2nd December into the Tier system.
Many who are currently off work can go back, but not all can.
So the scheme is extended...
 
Imurg said:
We came out of Lockdown back in June/July. The furlough scheme carried on as not everyone was able to go back to work.
Same applies here.
We exit Lockdown 2nd December into the Tier system.
Many who are currently off work can go back, but not all can.
So the scheme is extended...
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Plus allows for any future lock downs in new year
 
Fade and Die said:
Pointless exercise. Working in Westminster and Battersea today, traffic terrible, hoards of kids waiting at bus stops, long queues outside every coffee shop and food shop, it was actually hard to see any shops that were closed. I even saw a dog groomers/doggy day care open! providing "essential" dog sitting services I suppose!
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I can normally come up from Mitcham to the Royal Free in about an hour, choosing one of three bridges to cross and taking various routes dependant on what hold ups I can see ahead, took me 1.5 hours on Tuesday, not too bad, but took over 2hrs today, and that was doing some dodgy turns here & there.

Even in lockdown Park Lane is a joke now, single lane with a huge bus/coach & bike lanes that are empty!!

As for Bank, I just try to avoid anywhere near there now.
 
Fish said:
I can normally come up from Mitcham to the Royal Free in about an hour, choosing one of three bridges to cross and taking various routes dependant on what hold ups I can see ahead, took me 1.5 hours on Tuesday, not too bad, but took over 2hrs today, and that was doing some dodgy turns here & there.

Even in lockdown Park Lane is a joke now, single lane with a huge bus/coach & bike lanes that are empty!!

As for Bank, I just try to avoid anywhere near there now.
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I've been going to the Royal Free (In Hampstead) for the last 7 weeks since my wife had a Liver Transplant and the traffic is normally horrendous and Hampstead High St is normally packed with people, I am going there tomorrow so it will be interesting to see how it is now we are in "Lockdown"
 
Fade and Die said:
I've been going to the Royal Free (In Hampstead) for the last 7 weeks since my wife had a Liver Transplant and the traffic is normally horrendous and Hampstead High St is normally packed with people, I am going there tomorrow so it will be interesting to see how it is now we are in "Lockdown"
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Not much different, unfortunately.
 
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