New national lockdown from this Wed?

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If golf was open for those who worry about justifying travel .. the gov says this ..

Travel to venues that are open are fine

So nobody feel bad wherever you go that's legally open

Let's avoid the stupid arguements of last time that we shouldn't drive incase we crash ..


Sorry but my levels of Faux outrage and indignation are already at fever pitch ??
 
We're going in to a national lockdown until Dec 2nd because the regional Tier system isn't working. And the exit strategy for the national lockdown is to return to a regional Tier system. You know, the one that wasn't working meaning we needed a national lockdown. Anyone else spot a teensy tiny problem with this plan?
You are correct it's not working but why is it not working. I would suggest not due to the plan but due to people not adhering to the plan. If people decide to do as they want then no plan can succeed, so let's level the blame where it's deserved.
 
I was all for circuit breakers but looks like the shipped sailed unfortunately as the natural 1 week break with say this week off aswell for kids would have done them zero harm then back to normal until Xmas, Feb half term, Easter, may etc 2 week one for each

I almost expect circuit breakers on them now it's shown to work in other countries

With a carrot of Xmas and boxing day to meet up with one other house or something

I don't care about the political part of this so please if people want to debate that don't . Just what I'd personally like to see to hopefully get back to some kind of normal
 
You are correct it's not working but why is it not working. I would suggest not due to the plan but due to people not adhering to the plan. If people decide to do as they want then no plan can succeed, so let's level the blame where it's deserved.

It looks as though it was working in Liverpool. Maybe should have given it more time before deciding that it wasn't working.
 

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I got a feeling I will barely notice this lockdown. One kid in 6th form, one kid at uni. (Mix of online and classroom) both carrying on. Construction industry not stopping at all, cafes etc still doing takeaway, Supermarkets still open. I stopped playing Golf as it’s too dark and claggy so I am just carrying on as normal!
 
I got a feeling I will barely notice this lockdown. One kid in 6th form, one kid at uni. (Mix of online and classroom) both carrying on. Construction industry not stopping at all, cafes etc still doing takeaway, Supermarkets still open. I stopped playing Golf as it’s too dark and claggy so I am just carrying on as normal!

You and me both. Working as normal and only thing missing is golf at the weekend. I'd potentially go to the range one evening in the week and play at weekends but as you say it's wet and claggy out there so not a big loss and it may do the course some good to have a rest
 
Well - with figures today of nearly 500 deaths and 25,000 new positive tests - I don’t know...but it is really worrying to me how fast numbers seem to be climbing and so not sure what alternative there would have been to the lockdown starting midnight.
 
Well it's causing arguments at my place already....

Before lockdown I was going to see my bro every other weekend (support bubble).

Inlaws not too pleased I intend to do one trip this month. If girls see him then it means they can't see the kids.

They seemed to miss the point that their other 4 grandparents won't be sseing the girls either.....
 
Well - with figures today of nearly 500 deaths and 25,000 new positive tests - I don’t know...but it is really worrying to me how fast numbers seem to be climbing and so not sure what alternative there would have been to the lockdown starting midnight.

But you've been worrying for months. It is sad and yes there is a degree of the unknown again to control the spread but I at least where I am there is no imminent threat to the ICU beds and ventilators. My question will be how much of these deaths as we move into Winter are down to underlying co-morbidities. What are the ages as well?
 
It's a half-hearted lockdown at best, if at all!

No different in traffic whether on local roads or motorways, in fact, today was the busiest this week!!

Same old bottle necks and hot spots, school runs looked worse, kids gathered everywhere as they spilled out, parents parking where they liked, on yellows, zigzags and opposite each other making the road so narrow, it caused a more dangerous scenario than it should!!

In the first lockdown I had the roads to myself, mainly commercial vehicles on all roads with a dusting of cars, it was mayhem out there today, where they all driving to?
 
It's a half-hearted lockdown at best, if at all!

No different in traffic whether on local roads or motorways, in fact, today was the busiest this week!!

Same old bottle necks and hot spots, school runs looked worse, kids gathered everywhere as they spilled out, parents parking where they liked, on yellows, zigzags and opposite each other making the road so narrow, it caused a more dangerous scenario than it should!!

In the first lockdown I had the roads to myself, mainly commercial vehicles on all roads with a dusting of cars, it was mayhem out there today, where they all driving to?

Click and collect shops open

Schools open

Builders allowed to work

Construction work continuing

It's a completely different type of lockdown

Shielding not a thing this time

So more people able to drive
 
They are going to

Shops
work
Schools
Construction Sites
Exercise

It’s lockdown lite with the pubs and restaurants shut plus we can’t play sport

Well the PM did say the lockdown “automatically” stops on the 2nd Dec and everything reverts back to what though ? The situation you were in before
 
could anyone remind me when the lockdown starts coz Ave dropped kids off at school popped round to parents on the way home to see there ok and looking at the roads, nowts Changed.
 
Actually, they have.

Last night it took my colleagues 35 minutes to get to Staples corner. I went South on the A5, cut through B and Q, and shuffled back to Brent Cross. I got to the M1 in 18 minutes.

It is less than a mile.

Today, turned North on the A5, and was on the M1 in 5 minutes.
 
Definitely plenty of cars on the road today and it really didn't have the feel of a lockdown in any guise. Didn't go to the shops so can't say how busy they are and whether the shelves have been cleared - that's Saturdays delight
 
Pointless exercise. Working in Westminster and Battersea today, traffic terrible, hoards of kids waiting at bus stops, long queues outside every coffee shop and food shop, it was actually hard to see any shops that were closed. I even saw a dog groomers/doggy day care open! providing "essential" dog sitting services I suppose!
 
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