New national lockdown from this Wed?

Now 6pm or 7pm .... well no surprise there then...yet we are hearing what we are to be told...WTH is going on...

And what has changed since we were told yesterday and the day before that there were no plans for this...
 
The chart that they make reference too, with the worst case scenarios doesnt mention survivor issues, it had all the worse case protections and they were for number of deaths. They also haven’t mentioned lack of beds, or at least not as vocally. They made that point last time with save the nhs etc.

I’m not a covid denier in any form. I know as harshly as anyone the repercussions of it. I’m just saying that when it comes to explaining or justifying the lockdown in layman terms. Deaths are the numbers used.

The media naturally gravitates to dramatic numbers. "If it bleeds, it leads" as they say, so deaths get a lot of attention, but there has been plenty of coverage of the other data, some of which, like test numbers, takes some interpretation. I have also seen a fair bit of coverage of long Covid, and lack of NHS capacity, particularly ICU beds, has been a big issue too.

If you are saying this is a presentational issue, fine, but I disagree that lockdown (or similar) is not needed to try to prevent a major crisis.
 
Great if there is a programme, doesn't seem to be being widely advertised or mentioned.

If you don't mind me asking, were you expecting to test positive, or did you have no expectations? I would expect to because of Mrs. BiM's exposure, but have no access that I'm aware of.

I thought I might have tested positive as I had an illness in January with covid like symptoms. Cough and high temp.
 
I’ll have to write my reply separately as the other one with the V word got the elbow.

I’m not fussed about people dying. They do everyday and we all will.
 
You then went on to offer an opinion on the Government, that’s where you crossed the line

Can we discuss policy like restrictions etc but just can't offer an opinion one way on another as to if those in charge are good or bad

Is that right? Just want to make sure I don't cross the line
 
Correct. People on here seem to think they will live forever.

So you are OK with people dying at any age, 'cos its inevitable, innit? We should abandon the NHS entirely then, since they cannot offer immortality.

I think modern medicine has moved on from that to extending healthy life as an objective.
 
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