New national lockdown from this Wed?

pauljames87 said:
No it will still have an affect. All lockdowns kick the can down the road further and further

The right thing to do until a vaccine presents itself

We should have circuit broke at half term 2 weeks. Then Xmas , Feb half term, Easter and may half term

A formulated plan and then the summer less so as warmer weather and by then hopefully vaccine

Delayed too much unfortunately and here we are. A month lockdown by looks .

Tough times ahead
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Go back you your simplistic response. You said the weather halted it.

I accept it plays a part, but if people are locked inside then the weather is irrelevant as you can’t pass it if you aren’t near new people. If it still spreads during this lockdown and only schools are open, then I’d take a punt they play a part.....
 
pauljames87 said:
No thanks , it may have a Low death rate but if more people have it that low death rate is more people as more people have it.
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Deaths are super low. Reaction to them is crazy out of proportion. Around 47000 UK deaths attributed to COVID in what is close to a year is nothing. Stopping the world for that is nuts.
 
pauldj42 said:
You are answers are all about future generations, nothing about helping those in the here and now and if we don’t take more action, more will die, fact, therefore you implyed that worrying about the future debt burden is more important than current lives.
Box well and truly smashed open.:rolleyes:
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Again quote where I have said let people die. Usual heid first think second post from yourself. I await the quote.
 
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Papas1982 said:
Go back you your simplistic response. You said the weather halted it.

I accept it plays a part, but if people are locked inside then the weather is irrelevant as you can’t pass it if you aren’t near new people. If it still spreads during this lockdown and only schools are open, then I’d take a punt they play a part.....
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A necessary risk
 
pauldj42 said:
That is not alarmingly though or just down to national debt, there were many factors used when the rules to state pension age was changed.
They just don’t meet Jacko’s hissy fit.
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Not arguing that one way or the other mate, merely trying to explain to Bobmac what I think was meant about pension age. (y)
 
Captainron said:
Deaths are super low. Reaction to them is crazy out of proportion. Around 47000 UK deaths attributed to COVID in what is close to a year is nothing. Stopping the world for that is nuts.
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How many people have had it? Now let it run with no restrictions.. more people have it more people die

47k becomes 147k and so on.
 
Captainron said:
Deaths are super low. Reaction to them is crazy out of proportion. Around 47000 UK deaths attributed to COVID in what is close to a year is nothing. Stopping the world for that is nuts.
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Compared to what?
 
pauljames87 said:
How many people have had it? Now let it run with no restrictions.. more people have it more people die

47k becomes 147k and so on.
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Millions have had it and not known. Can’t test them all.

Any lockdown is pointless unless every single family group/person can stay isolated from the world until the vaccine is here.
 
Captainron said:
It’s like trying to plait fog Rich. It can’t be done.
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I appreciate what you're saying Cam but I'd feel more reassured if there appeared to be an antibody testing programme from which they tied to extrapolate the spread & base decisions on it.

At the moment they seem to be working on the basis that if you haven't had a positive test you haven't had it, which as Mrs. BiM's pre-op bloods prove isn't the case.
 
Blue in Munich said:
When you and I started working, pension age was 65. Now it is up to 67 or 68 because we can't afford 65, and this is going to make 67 or 68 economically unviable is what I think he means.
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The state pension age increased to 66 last month with another rise to 67 coming in 2026-2028.
So an increase of 2 years since 1925.
 
Captainron said:
As a percentage of population.
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But every death has been an extra death, I believe the excess mortality for the UK for 2020 is somewhere around 30,000 deaths, at what point does the number become unacceptable? Surely it can’t be left to its own devices?
 
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