Medal play ruling

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Are you allowed to place a ball on a tee peg for a playing partner in a medal who is struggling with a sore back and is finding it difficult to bend down
 

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Are you allowed to place a ball on a tee peg for a playing partner in a medal who is struggling with a sore back and is finding it difficult to bend down
When you say 'playing partner' do you mean Partner as in the Definition (ie as in a Fourball/Foursome) or what used to be called Fellow Competitor (ie is simply playing as a single in the same group)?
 

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I see no problem with placing the ball on a tee for another player.

If the player is having trouble bending down to put a ball on the tee, though, it begs the question whether the player also needs similar assistance to mark, lift and replace their ball on the putting green and elsewhere. Assuming we are talking about a fellow competitor here and not a partner in four-ball or foursomes, there are restrictions in this regard:

14.1b. The player’s ball may be lifted under the Rules only by the player, or anyone the player authorizes, but such authorization must be given each time before the ball is lifted rather than given generally for the round.

14.2b. The player’s ball must be replaced under the Rules only by the player, or any person who lifted the ball or caused it to move. If the player plays a ball that was replaced by someone not allowed to do so, the player gets one penalty stroke.
 

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As an aside, it would be useful for future indexing and reference purposes if a more descriptive title had been chosen for this thread. For example: "Placing the ball on a tee for another player"
 
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I was under the impression that the ball is not in play until a stroke has been made so surely placing the ball on a tee peg is fine?
 

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Really no distinction needed for that first question?
Surely 22.2 and 23.5 had to be considered.
  • A player may take any action concerning the partner’s ball that the partner is allowed to take before making a stroke, such as to mark the spot of the ball and lift, replace, drop and place the ball.
  • Either partner may take any allowed action for the side before the stroke is made, such as to mark the spot of the ball and lift, replace, drop and place the ball, no matter which partner’s turn it is to play next for the side.
 

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1) "Medal Play Ruling" is a very broad brush. No clue as to the actual topic if you want to search for relevant threads
2) It doesn't indicate if it is a question or telling us that the RBS have made a ruling.

It's a rules question in the rules section so will be of interest to the rules community so the rules experts are going to open it no matter what it's titled.
It doesn't take long to discover the topic as it is contained in the one and only sentence in the original post.
It's not that hard is it?
 

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Placing a ball on a tee for another player is one of those issues where it matters why you are doing it. As noted above, absolutely no issues in the OP case of helping someone that has a sore back or mobility limitations. But if it is one person (other than a partner) showing someone how to tee it to achieve a particular stroke (eg "you're teeing it too low, you need to get the top line of your driver aligned with the middle of the teed ball, there, that's it") then there is a breach of the advice rule.
 

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In six months time when a similar question comes up, some people will inevitably want to refer back to similar previous discussions. (It happens.) A heading like "Medal play ruling" isn't going to facilitate an easy search.
As you have the option of searching in the title only or in the text of the thread, I don't understand the need of having the subject in the title and in the first post.
Plus we now have the ''similar threads'' near the bottom of the page.
 

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As you have the option of searching in the title only or in the text of the thread, I don't understand the need of having the subject in the title and in the first post.
Plus we now have the ''similar threads'' near the bottom of the page.
4 of the 5 showing in my 'Similar thread' has an informative title. The other is vague.
 

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You may not find a definitive rule

25
Modifications for Players with Disabilities
25.1

Overview​

Rule 25 applies to all competitions, including all forms of play. It is a player’s category of disability and eligibility that determine whether they can use the specific modified Rules in Rule 25. Rule 25 modifies certain Rules for players in the following categories of disability:
  • Players who are blind (which includes certain levels of vision impairment),
  • Players who are amputees (which means both those with limb deficiencies and those who have lost a limb),
  • Players who use assistive mobility devices, and
  • Players with intellectual disabilities.
It is recognized that there are many players with other types of disabilities (such as players with neurological conditions, players with orthopaedic conditions, players of short stature and players who are deaf). These additional categories of disability are not covered in Rule 25 as, to date, no requirement has been identified for modification of the Rules of Golf for these players.

If the player cannot bend down to put a ball on a tee what does he do when the ball needs to be marked/lifted/placed in other situations as there is no dispensation for other players to do it under rule 25 for these situations?
 
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