Manchester Terrorist Attack!

The Yogurt knitters are out in force making exaggerated condemnations. "You cant throw them all out" "All Muslims are not to blame" "You are as bad as the BNP" "What about the Irish, why didnt we throw them out" All the typical leftist policy of taking anything someone says that is against their PC world and exaggerate it so that it sounds like people are looking to shoot all Muslims on sight. People here are talking of punishment for those that are against us not for those that want to be British and make an effort to be so.
 
SocketRocket said:
The Yogurt knitters are out in force making exaggerated condemnations. "You cant throw them all out" "All Muslims are not to blame" "You are as bad as the BNP" "What about the Irish, why didnt we throw them out" All the typical leftist policy of taking anything someone says that is against their PC world and exaggerate it so that it sounds like people are looking to shoot all Muslims on sight. People here are talking of punishment for those that are against us not for those that want to be British and make an effort to be so.
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I don't give a damn if someone wants to be British; it's nothing more than a geographical fluke or a political necessity.

I give a damn about people who are good and want to contribute to society. The colour of their skin doesn't matter a jot to me.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
We stopped being a Christian country a long time ago now - multi religions have been practiced in the U.K. For decades now

As for being "guests" - there are millions who are born in this country from a wide variety of ethnic origins - they are British by birth not guests or immigrants
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So you are saying we are not a christian country ? We are seen to be one from our values that we project to other nations .Would you rather us be an Islamic state ? That's what these people want us to be .
As someone else said land of birth does not really equate to nationality , we see a lot of Asians supporting the Pakistan cricket team for example is that not showing support for a perceived homeland ? as i said this is only an example not a slight on the many law abiding Asians that live with us and give a lot to our society.
I do not think i am "racist" but ,and its a big but i strongly support and want our way of life , our traditions and our freedoms to be treasured and continued ,our future is under threat and we must protect ourselves , how i am not sure .
 
SocketRocket said:
The Yogurt knitters are out in force making exaggerated condemnations. "You cant throw them all out" "All Muslims are not to blame" "You are as bad as the BNP" "What about the Irish, why didnt we throw them out" All the typical leftist policy of taking anything someone says that is against their PC world and exaggerate it so that it sounds like people are looking to shoot all Muslims on sight. People here are talking of punishment for those that are against us not for those that want to be British and make an effort to be so.
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Suggestions so far made on these threads

1. If one member of the family is found to have issues - throw the whole family out of the country even if they are British Born nationals

2. Anyone who is being monitored throw them out of the country

3. Smash up the mosques

4. Ban the practise of Islam

5. Give people from certain countries only a temp passport

Just a quick snippet

In regards to the Irish point - do you not think it's valid ? Over the last 4 decades white Christian Irishmen and ladies have killed British people both home and abroad - none of the suggestions been made were ever pointed towards the Irish ? Why not

There have been suggestions to kick out people who take part in rallies - why not the same suggestion for people who take part in EDL etc rallies ?

What is this "want to be British" statement - what exactly does it mean in the grand scheme ?
 
oxymoron said:
So you are saying we are not a christian country ? We are seen to be one from our values that we project to other nations .Would you rather us be an Islamic state ? That's what these people want us to be .
As someone else said land of birth does not really equate to nationality , we see a lot of Asians supporting the Pakistan cricket team for example is that not showing support for a perceived homeland ? as i said this is only an example not a slight on the many law abiding Asians that live with us and give a lot to our society.
I do not think i am "racist" but ,and its a big but i strongly support and want our way of life , our traditions and our freedoms to be treasured and continued ,our future is under threat and we must protect ourselves , how i am not sure .
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I think you may just be a racist, you just have reasons that you think justify it.

As to the alternative to being a Christian country... SECULAR.
 
oxymoron said:
So you are saying we are not a christian country ? We are seen to be one from our values that we project to other nations .Would you rather us be an Islamic state ? That's what these people want us to be .
As someone else said land of birth does not really equate to nationality , we see a lot of Asians supporting the Pakistan cricket team for example is that not showing support for a perceived homeland ? as i said this is only an example not a slight on the many law abiding Asians that live with us and give a lot to our society.
I do not think i am "racist" but ,and its a big but i strongly support and want our way of life , our traditions and our freedoms to be treasured and continued ,our future is under threat and we must protect ourselves , how i am not sure .
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I would actually prefer the UK to not be defined by any single religion or belief.

And what's wrong with someone from Asia supporting Pakistan ? Is that any different from people who are now British supporting Australia or indeed pick any country.

And "these people" is rather generic , surely you just mean the small minority of fundamentalists?
 
Kellfire said:
I think you may just be a racist, you just have reasons that you think justify it.

As to the alternative to being a Christian country... SECULAR.
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Racist ? or opinionated ? you do not know me so how can you judge ? in the office i work in are a couple of young Muslim lads who i am friends with , we have been to each others houses on a few occasions and hang around on occasions when not working , they saw what i was posting and agreed with what i said .
In my business i deal with all races and ethnicities and a racist would not last long .So before you judge perhaps you should ask the target of your slights a few more questions.

Secular ,,, i am all for that but do we not have a state religion ? Church of England ? If i am mistaken then sorry .
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I would actually prefer the UK to not be defined by any single religion or belief.

And what's wrong with someone from Asia supporting Pakistan ? Is that any different from people who are now British supporting Australia or indeed pick any country.

And "these people" is rather generic , surely you just mean the small minority of fundamentalists?
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Yes i am sorry , thanks for clearing that up. As for the support thing i meant to say some go over the top so again i apologize for not being more specific.
 
oxymoron said:
Racist ? or opinionated ? you do not know me so how can you judge ? in the office i work in are a couple of young Muslim lads who i am friends with , we have been to each others houses on a few occasions and hang around on occasions when not working , they saw what i was posting and agreed with what i said .
In my business i deal with all races and ethnicities and a racist would not last long .So before you judge perhaps you should ask the target of your slights a few more questions.

Secular ,,, i am all for that but do we not have a state religion ? Church of England ? If i am mistaken then sorry .
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Ah. You've got a foreign friend so you're not racist. Oldest defence in the book.

And yes, we do have the Church of England. We shouldn't in my opinion. We shouldn't let our morals be dictated by a divisive, demonstrably non-existent deity and the mind-controlling book that was written in its name.
 
Kellfire said:
Are you for real with that comment?

Someone could be witnessed having a conversation with a known terrorist and would immediately be on said radar.

You're clearly fanatical and a little bit scary to be honest.
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You know that's how the secret services work?

I'm hardly fanatical
 
oxymoron said:
Yes i am sorry , thanks for clearing that up. As for the support thing i meant to say some go over the top so again i apologize for not being more specific.
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Is it any different to any fanatical support of a sport team ? It's the same when any foreign nation play here - there is a lot of support for them from people in U.K. But have ancestors from another country
 
Kellfire;1697584[B said:
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Ah. You've got a foreign friend so you're not racist. Oldest defence in the book.[/B]

And yes, we do have the Church of England. We shouldn't in my opinion. We shouldn't let our morals be dictated by a divisive, demonstrably non-existent deity and the mind-controlling book that was written in its name.
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Firstly you had a go at me so i provided you with a few facts , i do not have to defend myself to you at all just giving you a little insight , and they are not foreign i should have said of Asian descent but you probably would find fault with that too.

Secondly , are these fanatics following a divisive, demonstrably non-existent deity and the mind-controlling book that was written in its name.?

You maywish to keep slinging names so feel free to target me ,leave others in peace.

 
SocketRocket said:
The Yogurt knitters are out in force making exaggerated condemnations. "You cant throw them all out" "All Muslims are not to blame" "You are as bad as the BNP" "What about the Irish, why didnt we throw them out" All the typical leftist policy of taking anything someone says that is against their PC world and exaggerate it so that it sounds like people are looking to shoot all Muslims on sight. People here are talking of punishment for those that are against us not for those that want to be British and make an effort to be so.
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You don't have to be a leftie to hold the views you are so disparaging about.
 
Kellfire said:
Ah. You've got a foreign friend so you're not racist. Oldest defence in the book.
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Ah "racism" where you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
One of my best friends is as "black as your hat" as they say. His name is Mark Hutchinson, and he lives in London.
Nicer guy you couldn't wish to meet. I'd trust him with anything and he is welcome to stay at my house anytime he wants.
Sorry, am I overdoing the racism????
 
oxymoron said:
So you are saying we are not a christian country ? We are seen to be one from our values that we project to other nations .Would you rather us be an Islamic state ? That's what these people want us to be .
As someone else said land of birth does not really equate to nationality , we see a lot of Asians supporting the Pakistan cricket team for example is that not showing support for a perceived homeland ? as i said this is only an example not a slight on the many law abiding Asians that live with us and give a lot to our society.
I do not think i am "racist" but ,and its a big but i strongly support and want our way of life , our traditions and our freedoms to be treasured and continued ,our future is under threat and we must protect ourselves , how i am not sure .
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So why are folk here suggesting stuff and making outrageous statements that are totally alien to anyone of Christian faith and what that faith teaches us? And stuff that actually undermines the very values that make the UK the country that it is and that we 'project to other nations'.

So much posted on this thread is very disheartening and disturbing - that folks think this way and think that some of the things said are OK and 'right' - and that somehow will be a way to the answer. When in fact all they would do would be to alienate the community we need to get fully on board. We need all communities to be part of 'us' - the measures talked of here would simply exaggerate the 'us' and 'them'

Sad I am.
 
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Smiffy said:
Ah "racism" where you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
One of my best friends is as "black as your hat" as they say. His name is Mark Hutchinson, and he lives in London.
Nicer guy you couldn't wish to meet. I'd trust him with anything and he is welcome to stay at my house anytime he wants.
Sorry, am I overdoing the racism????
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Steady on ,, someone will pop up soon and accuse you of being the leader of the EDL and the BNP
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
So why are folk here suggesting stuff and making outrageous statements that are totally alien to anyone of Christian faith and what that faith teaches us? And stuff that actually undermines the very values that make the UK the country that it is and that we 'project to other nations'.

So much posted on this thread is very disheartening and disturbing - that folks think this way and think that some of the things said are OK and 'right' - and that somehow will be a way to the answer. Sad I am.
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Maybe because we are appalled at what someone has done, almost certainly, in the name of religion. I accept we have to be tolerant to law abiding and fair people of other beliefs but I share others views that if you come to our country, or were born here, you MUST accept OUR values and way of life and do nothing to disrupt it.
 
chrisd said:
Maybe because we are appalled at what someone has done, almost certainly, in the name of religion. I accept we have to be tolerant to law abiding and fair people of other beliefs but I share others views that if you come to our country, or were born here, you MUST accept OUR values and way of life and do nothing to disrupt it.
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done in the name of a belief - an warped interpretation - encouraged by Saudi Arabia - not in the name of a religion.

And what are our values? Intolerance?
 
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