Manchester Refs XI v Villa

Yet another game that, by all accounts, has further enforced my decision to give up SKY Sports.
EVERY game in the PL that I watched was riddled with cheating and I'd had enough. The FA could and should do something about it but they won't because every time there's a contentious decision it gets you, me, everyone talking about it which means that more people will watch the PL.
The CL is no better and I struggle to watch a game now.
Will I watch England in the summer? I honestly don't know. It only ever leads to gross disappointment. I think I'll stick a film on.

Football as I knew it has long since died and the phoenix that rose from its ashes appears to be a very poor one by comparison.
 
kmdmr1 said:
I am a qualified referee,and It was a penalty...
Regardless of the the dive,it was still a penalty.
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I'd hate to play in a game you were in charge of.

No way was it a pen he left his leg trailing so it would clip the planted leg of the defender. The only way there could not have been contact was if the defender pulled he leg out the way and let him run through.
 
richy said:
I'd hate to play in a game you were in charge of.

No way was it a pen he left his leg trailing so it would clip the planted leg of the defender. The only way there could not have been contact was if the defender pulled he leg out the way and let him run through.
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The referee can only give what he sees,
It is alright for people sitting at home or in a studio,they can look at replays in slowmo time and time again before they can decide what it was,but a ref has 1-2 seconds to make up his mind and hopefully his decision is right,
 
kmdmr1 said:
The referee can only give what he sees,
It is alright for people sitting at home or in a studio,they can look at replays in slowmo time and time again before they can decide what it was,but a ref has 1-2 seconds to make up his mind and hopefully his decision is right,
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Listen, I got a call from Ray Charles saying it was a flagrant dive and not a pen. And he's in the USA.
 
kmdmr1 said:
I am a qualified referee,and It was a penalty...
Regardless of the the dive,it was still a penalty.
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Was you bullied at school or just rubbish at playing??

Watch it again and you'll see Young stood on the villa defenders foot then he dived.

Never a pen whether it be man utd Liverpool or Crawley.
 
A1ex said:
In terms of divers, Suarez and Young are the two biggest culprits, just pure cheats.
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Never heard of Gerrard or Drogba then?
Just another anti Man Utd thread.
Lets face it, most players, when contact is felt, will go down in the penalty area in such a way that they are certain the referee has seen it. They are expected to do so by their fans, their team-mates & their manager who would have undoubtedly instructed them so to do. They appeal for corners, throw ins & goal kicks when they know they touched the ball last, that's blatant cheating too!
This, alas, is the modern game & will remain so until the FA or the PMA make a stand and do so in a united & unanimous fashion.
All matches must be watched by a panel of adjudicators with the power & will to hand out large post-match bans to ANY player acting in a manner deemed not befitting the game of football.
Until then you'll just have to get over it or stop watching it...............but please,stop moaning about it.

Slime.
 
richy said:
I'd hate to play in a game you were in charge of.

No way was it a pen he left his leg trailing so it would clip the planted leg of the defender. The only way there could not have been contact was if the defender pulled the leg out the way and let him run through.
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So you're saying the defender 'planted' his leg therefore blocking Young's path, that'll be a penalty then.
Thanks for clearing that up for us richy.

Slime.
 
As a qualified ref (albeit class 3) I wouldn't have given it. As a Fulham fan, I'm still smarting about the one we didn't get at Old Trafford when Murphy was brought down and the one Chelsea got at Craven Cottage when there was clearly minimal if any contact before or after Murphy made the challenge and won the ball.

It isn't the first season United have had help from dodgy penalty decisions and there is definitely a big club bias no matter how much the FA insist otherwise
 
Eduardo was pilloried by the press, and the fa. But then he was a dirty cheating foreigner. absolved on appeal. Young is English, so gets the benefit of the doubt. May be not so if he plays for qpr, but English, and united, no questions.

Anyway, the biggest diver is Owen.
 
Im a united fan and I don't really know where to stand on the young penalty, yes he made more of it than he should of, but there was contact and we forget that we see all this in super slow motion from several angles, in real time its perfectly possible that simply he got a slight touch and his momentum took him over, albeit he then made a meal of it, but from the refs view in real time I don't blame him as he doesn't see all the replays... although I do't really know where the OP is getting this so called horrendous tackle from scholes from, the one big tackle he made he won the ball, didn't make contact with the player and then had the player fall on him so I don't understand where you're getting that from... also the decisions are swings and roundabouts, you get some like the one last week against qpr and you don't like the one we didn't get against wigan, the correct decision is never going to be made 100% of the time, thats just the way football is, man utd to not get special treatment from referees, if we win more penalties than other sides perhaps its because we're the best side in the country so our attack generally is able to force more errors and fouls than others...
 
freddielong said:
9 penalties for young this year more than
twice that of any other player

not really a suprise
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Can you tell us who is second in penalties won?

Then can you tell me how many times Young has been running at speed with the ball into the box compared to who is second? I think you will find its a damn sight more than twice as many times. As I said earlier, law of averages...
 
So it's just due to him running more often ok then

do you actually believe that and do you think the last two were dives

Scholes tackle was nowhere near as bad as marios and I don't mind Utd winning as long as the death of football don't win the league

Utd are no worse than any other team they are all trained to cheat nowdays
 
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Slime said:
So you're saying the defender 'planted' his leg therefore blocking Young's path, that'll be a penalty then.
Thanks for clearing that up for us richy.

Slime.
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Im saying that the defender didnt stick his leg out and trip him. Even his own manager said he went down to easy. He's a joke. The only people that think it was a penalty are man utd fans. Blinkered AGAIN!
 
smange said:
Can you tell us who is second in penalties won?

Then can you tell me how many times Young has been running at speed with the ball into the box compared to who is second? I think you will find its a damn sight more than twice as many times. As I said earlier, law of averages...
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Egg chasers run at speed too. And 5m from the line, it often takes 3 other blokes to bring them down. I have never, ever seen an egg chaser fall over from such little contact. Some of their wingers are scary fast, but still manage to stay on their feet.

Young is a diver. End of.
 
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